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Dubbin in FL Studio.

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:53 am
by M1asma
I have been using FL on and off for years, and dubstep has really gotten me back into it.

I feel like I've gotten a lot of the knowledge of how to use the program, and where things are, and how they function....thats all fine and dandy, I can even throw together a halfassed song that sounds ALRIGHT, but is nowhere near close to the caliber I'd like to be.

Example:

http://soundcloud.com/mrs1ck/superstion-1

Something I threw together from an old 50's PSA on nuclear bombs.


But the point of this post, or better put, the reason I am posting, is because I know next to NOTHING about music theory. I know, google google google...but I'd like good resources that would apply to dubstep as a genre, as opposed to trying to comprehend complicated music theory that I don't have anyone to ask questions.

So, what I am asking for is not a dubstep bible, I found one of those on a forum somewhere (may have been here :P), but maybe like a cheat sheet, or some resources that would help me (and my fellow artist's to be) understand how music theory applies to dubstep, and some practical examples, maybe even a picture or two?!

Thanks in advance for any assistance, as I've hit a terrible spell, to which I only create a 10 second clip of drums and some wobs, and then get completely unmotivated because I don't know what else to do, let alone create a new drum beat besides k.....s.....k......s.....k......s......

Thanks again,

M1asma.

:corntard: :dunce:

Re: Dubbin in FL Studio.

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:03 am
by Triphosphate
This is really difficult, do you have at least a general grasp of music theory as in terminology? Like what the difference between a minor and major? Or what typical song structure is like? (example 4 measures are made up of 4 beats each totaling 16 which is a 'phrase' and the last measure of the 'phrase' is your connection to the next phrase.) it's like trying to teach someone japanese speaking only japanese. Do you have aim? PM me it if you'd like, it would take quite a few chats, especially if you're at square one. But I'd be glad to try to help.

Re: Dubbin in FL Studio.

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2011 12:25 pm
by M1asma
I have very vague understanding of what things are. I know that dubstep is generally in minor (or i could be wrong!), and FL Studio has a chord selection tool that I can select the proper notes from.

But no, I really know very little about music theory. As far as terminology, that's what google is for. I'll definitely PM you my screen name, but if anyone else has any ideas, I'm not opposed to hearing them!

Re: Dubbin in FL Studio.

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:02 am
by RandoRando
I know no music theory was so ever, i just trial and error with different keys onmy keyboard, and record wat sounds good.

Re: Dubbin in FL Studio.

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:53 am
by Electric_Head
ksksks is soo boring

kskkskkkskkks

there, I just created a new beat.
it`s really that simple

Re: Dubbin in FL Studio.

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 10:03 am
by Mehlovich

Re: Dubbin in FL Studio.

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 12:56 pm
by Sparxy
I know zero music theory as well, I just use my ears. If it sounds wack then it probably is wack. I can be quite handy on the keyboard though
Also you know music theory applies to all music. there is no dubstep-specific music theory because it is the same regardless of what genre you're in
there might be a few scales that seem to apply mroe to dubstep than other genres but in reality there are no rules or limits at all

Re: Dubbin in FL Studio.

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:13 pm
by benjam
Try using Em, Fm and Gm theyre quite commonly used but you could use any scale/s tbh.
I found these links extremely useful too :

Quick and easy guide to chord progressions and circle of fifths-
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GZ3GreS0pwg/T ... Bmusic.jpg

Ravenspiral 92 page guide-
http://www.scribd.com/mobile/documents/ ... _password=

Warbeats tutorials ( using FL ) -
http://warbeats.com/Tutorials/Music-Theory

Re: Dubbin in FL Studio.

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 2:46 pm
by M1asma

You sir, are a god send. This is quality stuff, I feel like I just got a hefty bag full of pot for free.

:4:
benjaminC wrote:Try using Em, Fm and Gm theyre quite commonly used but you could use any scale/s tbh.
I found these links extremely useful too :

Quick and easy guide to chord progressions and circle of fifths-
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-GZ3GreS0pwg/T ... Bmusic.jpg

Ravenspiral 92 page guide-
http://www.scribd.com/mobile/documents/ ... _password=

Warbeats tutorials ( using FL ) -
http://warbeats.com/Tutorials/Music-Theory

You too! Quality reading for the slow times at work, thank you both.

Re: Dubbin in FL Studio.

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 3:09 pm
by M1asma
In case anyone else is reading the Ravenspiral 92 page guide...on the third page he discusses a program called Nutchords, a free Windows based piano.

I personally am going to follow his guide with the FL Studio built in keyboard, as that is what I am most familiar with.

But, if you would like a WORKING link, as opposed to the broken one in the guide:

http://nut-chords-32.findmysoft.com/download/#

That actually works, hope I was of some help to someone!

Re: Dubbin in FL Studio.

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 6:18 pm
by M1asma
Soundcloud


This is what I arrived at with page 5 of the 92 page guide.

Hopefully by page 92 I'll have something tasty cooked up, will post updates as they become available.

Edit:

Here is the result of another hour spent between calls at work trying some new things:

Soundcloud

Applied some wobbles, tried to throw a synth in here right after the second down lifter. Was unable to get anything to sound right, I guess I'm having trouble layering instruments, not in the programming sense, but in the I just don't know what pads and what lead's will sound good together, because I just can't make it work, any advice would be awesome!

Re: Dubbin in FL Studio.

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2011 9:04 pm
by mikeyp

Re: Dubbin in FL Studio.

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:57 am
by M1asma
Thanks man, all those pictures are rather confusing, but between google and the rest of the responses I got back, I think I'll be just fine.

:W:

Re: Dubbin in FL Studio.

Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:40 pm
by antics
read the ravenspiral guide, it's made for for electronic music and is succint and useful