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He's remixing Example this time.. like this quite a lot....

standard remix, nothing special .... will be lost in the mass too

Such a commercialized, watered down, shitty product of something that it so much more deep and intellectual than this teeny bopper bullshit.

::Puts on Biome - Swirls, with a chuckle & smirk::

I just listened to Biome - Swirls. I find it repetitive and boring. Then I listened to the Flux Pavillion song, and liked it a lot better. What is watered down about it? What is unintellectual about it? Pretty sure that the Biome track is more watered down as it's the same shit over and over again throughout the entire song. The flux pavillion song actually goes somewhere and is intelligent and creative writing.

My point is: I think it's too easy to hate popular artists and songs that are really successful. There is often a reason (with the exception of Katy Perry of course) why the artists or songs are so popular -- because they're GOOD!

T-Flex wrote:I just listened to Biome - Swirls. I find it repetitive and boring. Then I listened to the Flux Pavillion song, and liked it a lot better. What is watered down about it? What is unintellectual about it? Pretty sure that the Biome track is more watered down as it's the same shit over and over again throughout the entire song. The flux pavillion song actually goes somewhere and is intelligent and creative writing.

My point is: I think it's too easy to hate popular artists and songs that are really successful. There is often a reason (with the exception of Katy Perry of course) why the artists or songs are so popular -- because they're GOOD!

Yeah, or it could be the same chord progressions and productions over and over and over, designed to sound shiny and plastic and appealing to people who don't think about their music. Have you actually listened to the synths and beats in any FP song? It's the same garbage over and over, absolutely no variations in sound or style. Not only that, but there's no space in any of his songs, no room to breathe. If you like music that's made to move units, sound like everything else, and trash your speakers with distortion, keep listening to what you do. and "creative writing"? Gimme a fucking break.

It's tolerable, which is more than can be said for a lot of the current wave of screeching "face-melters".

T-Flex wrote:I just listened to Biome - Swirls. I find it repetitive and boring. Then I listened to the Flux Pavillion song, and liked it a lot better. What is watered down about it? What is unintellectual about it? Pretty sure that the Biome track is more watered down as it's the same shit over and over again throughout the entire song. The flux pavillion song actually goes somewhere and is intelligent and creative writing.

My point is: I think it's too easy to hate popular artists and songs that are really successful. There is often a reason (with the exception of Katy Perry of course) why the artists or songs are so popular -- because they're GOOD!

yo you should buy a subwoofer

post is jokes... especially that last sentence

quoting seckle from a different thread cause this actually blew my mind:

when someone you never heard of blows up on YT in 1 month, i'll wager that 75% of that is paid for....
http://www.socialmediadd.com/YouTube_Ma ... s_s/51.htm
http://www.socialkik.com/youtube.html

you can buy 10,000 YT likes for $350 at the moment. 100,000 YT subscribers can be bought for $3000

so yes, big record companies CAN use money to shove whatever music they please down the throats of the masses, its a reason why youtube's most watched videos are all music videos now instead of evolution of dance and other interesting personal creations... good is relative anyway... i dont even know what im saying anymore

hendramarshall wrote:i dont even know what im saying anymore

what was so progressive and interesting about the composition in that tune.....
and by the way this music is supposed to be repetitive. That means nothing about its depth or quality. It's meant to be DJ'ed in a set, so, it's just beats for the most part. This style of electro is so wank, its just cheap glowstick music imo.

/me thinks every canadian is a brostepper?

dont like swirls or the other tune though

Okay if Swirls didn't do it for you, fine. I understand. It took me awhile to get into the deeper stuff too. Check out something a little less repetitive.

T-Flex wrote:I just listened to Biome - Swirls. I find it repetitive and boring. Then I listened to the Flux Pavillion song, and liked it a lot better. What is watered down about it? What is unintellectual about it? Pretty sure that the Biome track is more watered down as it's the same shit over and over again throughout the entire song. The flux pavillion song actually goes somewhere and is intelligent and creative writing.

My point is: I think it's too easy to hate popular artists and songs that are really successful. There is often a reason (with the exception of Katy Perry of course) why the artists or songs are so popular -- because they're GOOD!

Different genres of music have different objectives/points/motives and I can see that you've completely missed the point of dubstep and where it's coming from

Also, lol @ the Flux track being "intelligently" written. What are you even measuring this against?

new FP Set from this week

Soundcloud
Flux Pavillion and Skism feat. Foreign Beggars - Jump Back
Flux Pavilion - Bass Cannon
Wolfgang Gartner - Forever (16 Bit Remix)
Chase & Status - Hitz (Dillon Francis Remix)
Untitled - Dill The Noize (White)
Brown & Gammon - Blow My Mind
Dismantle - Computation
Porter Robinson - The State (Skism Remix)
DJ Fresh - Louder (Flux Pavilion and Doctor P Remix)
Flux Pavillion and Doctor P - Superbad
Example - Midnight Run (Flux Pavilion Remix)

soooooo

personally, i think everyone is quick to dismiss the hype producers
flux pavillion incoporates musicality. and i can appreciate that regardless if the sounds are screeching mids and/or highs (chillout, its just a fad)
melodies/progressions etc validate you more as a musician

people rate producers who play 5 minutes of an 8 bar riff with only 1 variation (the second drop) greater than a producer who is actually playing with the music and going through phrases. NOT TO KNOCK ON ANYONE
but dubstep is a genre that is somewhat deprived of actual musicianship. (not saying there arent any musicians out there, but you dont need to know music to be able to blow someones brains out with bass)
the production/production value is off the charts though


think about it.
you listen to the first 60 seconds of a track to realize that its the whole song (theres absolutely nothing wrong with that)

juuuust sayin

uphigh wrote:people rate producers who play 5 minutes of an 8 bar riff with only 1 variation (the second drop) greater than a producer who is actually playing with the music and going through phrases. NOT TO KNOCK ON ANYONE
but dubstep is a genre that is somewhat deprived of actual musicianship. (not saying there arent any musicians out there, but you dont need to know music to be able to blow someones brains out with bass)
the production/production value is off the charts though


think about it.
you listen to the first 60 seconds of a track to realize that its the whole song (theres absolutely nothing wrong with that)

First of all, that dubstep is deprived of musicianship just isn't true. There's and abundance of producers that know how to write. And bear in mind here that I'm using your implied definition of musicianship of taking a motif (hook/melody), expanding on it and so forth. (That definition in itself is very debatable)

Second, you too seem to be missing the point point of dubstep. It's not conventional in the sense that melodies/themes/motifs are always the focus of the music. It builds an atmosphere around bassweight which is there to be felt and not necessarily to be listened to. And how the producer does this can very subtle and hypnotizing. And that is the worth of dubstep, to me at least. I'm not listening to this genre primarily to hear hooks and pretty vocals. That's like listening to Bach and going "WTF, this guy couldn't write a decent chorus to save his life".

Raad wrote:

uphigh wrote:people rate producers who play 5 minutes of an 8 bar riff with only 1 variation (the second drop) greater than a producer who is actually playing with the music and going through phrases. NOT TO KNOCK ON ANYONE
but dubstep is a genre that is somewhat deprived of actual musicianship. (not saying there arent any musicians out there, but you dont need to know music to be able to blow someones brains out with bass)
the production/production value is off the charts though


think about it.
you listen to the first 60 seconds of a track to realize that its the whole song (theres absolutely nothing wrong with that)

First of all, that dubstep is deprived of musicianship just isn't true. There's and abundance of producers that know how to write. And bear in mind here that I'm using your implied definition of musicianship of taking a motif (hook/melody), expanding on it and so forth. (That definition in itself is very debatable)

Second, you too seem to be missing the point point of dubstep. It's not conventional in the sense that melodies/themes/motifs are always the focus of the music. It builds an atmosphere around bassweight which is there to be felt and not necessarily to be listened to. And how the producer does this can very subtle and hypnotizing. And that is the worth of dubstep, to me at least. I'm not listening to this genre primarily to hear hooks and pretty vocals. That's like listening to Bach and going "WTF, this guy couldn't write a decent chorus to save his life".

^ That 2nd paragraph couldn't have been stated more perfectly.