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"We were dubstep before there was dubstep,"

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:12 pm
by muntz
http://t.co/MzFVrfzA

:u:
If you ask lead singer Jonathan Davis, Korn's foray into dubstep is more natural than the band's metalhead fans might realize -- or admit.



"We were dubstep before there was dubstep," Davis says. "Tempos at 140 with half-time drums, huge bassed-out riffs. We used to bring out 120 subwoofers and line them across the whole front of the stage, 60 subs per side. We were all about the bass."



Korn mines those roots on its 10th album, "The Path of Totality" (Dec. 2, Roadrunner), enlisting the talents of the aggressive electronic genre's top producers, from poster boy Skrillex (aka Sonny Moore) to Noisia, one of its most respected experimental collectives, for an 11-track set that signifies more than an urgent new sound for the almost 20-year-old band. The Path of Totality also stands as dubstep's first official smash-up with its obvious cousin, hard rock. And if social media tests are any indication, the kids are more than ready for it.



"Probably the most active young audience out there is the dubstep audience, just as Korn's was when they first came on the scene," says Peter Katsis, the band's manager since its self-titled 1994 debut. "There's a reason why they're attracted to each other; why a guy like Skrillex went from [singing lead in a hardcore] band like From First to Last to doing what he's doing [today]."

Korn's interest in bass music started with Davis, a longtime DJ and student of new sounds. "I've been a fan of electronic music since the beginning," Davis says. "When I first heard Skrillex's stuff, I was blown away."



Earlier this year, Davis tried playing some guitar riffs over Skrillex tracks, liked what he heard and got the rest of the band's blessing. "That's when I called Sonny, and he was like, 'Fuck yeah,'" Davis says.



Some studio time with Skrillex-meant more as an experiment than a formal album session-yielded three tracks, including "Get Up!," which Davis says took three-and-a-half hours to write and record. The incendiary track blends Skrillex's loose, half-time break beats and growling, stuttering bass sounds with Korn's moments of melody and Davis' own demon roar. The band premiered the song with Skrillex during his April 15 Coachella set and posted the studio version as a free, fan-only download on its Facebook page four days later.



"At first we said, 'You want to give it away? Really?'" Katsis recalls with a laugh.



In the end, the band's instincts proved sound. According to Katsis, Korn had about 4.5 million Facebook fans before the track posted: It now has 7.3 million, and the number keeps growing. "We have weekly online meetings, and when they pull those stats up on the screen it's really impressive. You almost have to do a double take," Roadrunner senior director of marketing Suzi Akyuz says.



"Obviously when we saw that happen, we said, 'What should we do? Should we make an EP?'" Katsis says. "'We want to go in this new direction and claim it for our own. It's struck a unique chord inside all of us, but how do we do it?' The answer ended up being a whole album."



Using Skrillex as a conduit, Korn reached out to a host of other young dubstep acts: Canadian-born Excision, whose flinty, metallic sound seemed a natural fit; former drum'n'bass producers 12th Planet and Downlink; U.K.-born Feed Me, who released his first full-length on Mau5trap this year.



"These kids are onto something completely innovative and new," Davis says. "It's pure and awesome and underground and heavy and different, not like stale-ass metal and rock'n'roll. I love them all, but the old-school metalheads are not open to change."



Korn has sold more than 19 million albums in the United States, according to Nielsen SoundScan, and even though Davis himself cites the potential for backlash, he says that so far on the band's 13-date tour -- which kicked off Nov. 3 in Boston -- everyone is getting along.



"It's really cool to see glow sticks at the show, to see dance music culture infiltrating and becoming one with the metal community," he says. "At the last show, there was one mosh pit where they were moshing, and another with kids doing glow stick tricks. They were taking turns and shit. I think we've opened up a new style that both sides are happy with."

Re: "We were dubstep before there was dubstep,"

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:19 pm
by ariosa
"dubstep's first official smash-up with its obvious cousin, hard rock"...

"took three-and-a-half hours to write and record".....

'We want to go in this new direction and claim it for our own"....

"there was one mosh pit where they were moshing, and another with kids doing glow stick tricks. They were taking turns and shit".............................................................................................................................................

wtf am i reading..


i do think if would be pretty hilarious to see a bunch of metalheads beat up some of these wannabe raver kids who are into skrillex... but then again what self respecting metalhead would be caught at a korn concert..

seems funny that most of korn's fans are kids who whine and cry about being bullied, while still trying to be tough metal guys or w/e... i guess skrillex fans fit right in with the crowd of kids who enjoy listening to music about their uncle molesting them or w/e korn whines about in 90% of their music

Re: "We were dubstep before there was dubstep,"

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:27 pm
by drokkr
What the fuck is this shit?

Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubstep."

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:29 pm
by Shum
http://www.billboard.com/news/korn-s-da ... 1562.story

DSF's favourite front man with more to say about the scene and Korn's upcoming album.

:facepalm:

Apologies if this is a repost.

Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:34 pm
by Forum
The one on the right looks like he should be living behind some bins

Re: "We were dubstep before there was dubstep,"

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:38 pm
by drokkr
Hang on a second... Didn't Timbaland pull this shit too?

Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:39 pm
by Sexual_Chocolate
i swear... if they ever venture back to nz... i will make it my personal mission to kick the tnuc in the face.

ill admit, they've most likely influenced people into producing particular sounds, but just like timbaland... they had absoutely nothing in the creation of it.

Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:48 pm
by Molzie
what is up with the recent "my music has percussion, therefore dubstep" mentality?

how did people become so misinformed?

Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:49 pm
by Regret
If he didn't bang on like he's the godfather of it all I wouldn't care but Jesus Christ, what a twat.

Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:53 pm
by Sexual_Chocolate
Molzie wrote:what is up with the recent "my music has percussion, therefore dubstep" mentality?

how did people become so misinformed?
i blame commercial radio & mtv

Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:56 pm
by Reese_Liar
I just went from "Korn? Who gives a shit?"

to

:facepalm:

to

:baby:


EDIT:
Also, is it just me or does this phrase
Korn's interest in bass music started with Davis, a longtime DJ and student of new sounds.

qualify for a douchebaggery of the year award?

Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:59 pm
by DREdio
Nevalo wrote:
Molzie wrote:what is up with the recent "my music has percussion, therefore dubstep" mentality?

how did people become so misinformed?
i blame commercial radio & mtv
pretty much this. those 2 have knack for ruining good music

Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:09 am
by Mastem
:o

Seriously?

According to that logic Reggae was Dubstep first right? Fucking dipshit -__-

Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:12 am
by DJDM
if i were dubstep, i would kick this guy in the teeth

Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:13 am
by FuDuzn
Burial=Jonathan Davis

Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:25 am
by Hazed
Usually try to just stay away from stuff like this, but this article really annoyed me, just his arrogance.

He isn't the first person to make 140 music, he isn't the first to make bass heavy music and isn't the first person to have half-time drums. Dubstep wasn't even the first genre to have those characteristics

But I suppose making statements like that'll definitely get people talking about them, another way to get hype for the upcoming album, eh?

Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:29 am
by Sexual_Chocolate
Hazed wrote:But I suppose making statements like that'll definitely get people talking about them, another way to get hype for the upcoming album, eh?
more like a pisspoor attempt to tap back into being relavant in the music scene....

i suppose thats one good thing i have to say about skrillex, atleast she has gone the right way around, saying that she doesnt even make dubstep...


on a different note.... wonder how long it will be until limp bizkit release a dubstep album

Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:36 am
by Bipolar

Re: Jonathan Davis: "We were Dubstep before there was Dubste

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:37 am
by FuDuzn
I love how Korn latched onto the whole rapcore thing when it was popular, now they are doing the same thing with brostep. I really used to be a big fan of theirs, but they are a shell of what they were on their first album.

Re: "We were dubstep before there was dubstep,"

Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:41 am
by hutyluty
i remember distance saying he was really influenced by korn