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Manuals / Reference for Production

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:42 pm
by will-k13
Dear Dubstep nation,

I am opening the topic in the hope of gaining some insight into manuals for production. I am just about to start a gap year before going to Uni and want to get deep into production now.

Anyways to the point, I want to ask about manuals and reference for Reason 3.0, Stylus RMX and Fruity Loops. I know that many people will warn me away from Fruity Loops but I want to try it for myself in camparison with others.

Basically for the initial stuff I will be happy to look on this forum and around in other forums but I want a book I can use when those don't provide the answer or I don't understand the answer it's giving.

If anyone has any links to forums based around these pieces of software that would be really useful as well but what I really want is suggestions on manuals to buy.

Cheers in advance :D,
Will K

Re: Manuals / Reference for Production

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:21 pm
by vonboyage
Will-K13 wrote:I know that many people will warn me away
Fruity is badderman. Dont let no one try wean u off ANYTHING..

I say fruitys as good as the user...

Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:44 pm
by tempest
i agree, fruity is the shiz... lots of you tube vids on it to get a general idea of whats going on.. manuals and that come with the software

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:43 am
by gj orange
Have you guys who think fwooty is the bees knees ever used Cubase or Logic?

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:27 am
by autopsy
for reason id recomend this book

http://www.htfr.com/more-info/MR217680

starts with the absolute basics and covers every effect and instrument :4:

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:32 pm
by i978
GJ Orange wrote:Have you guys who think fwooty is the bees knees ever used Cubase or Logic?
I detect a hint of snobbishness in your post. There's nothing wrong with fruity. All sequencers essentially do the same thing - only the bells and whistles and user interface change. I have used Cubase in the past - It is over complicated with a poor user interface. Unless you have a 24 track studio with serious outboard gear and are going to be recording several live musicians simultaniously I really wouldn't bother with it.

Most home setups will run out of CPU before they've run out of "routing options" on even the most rudementary sequencer. And fundamentally there is no difference in the "sound engines" in different sequencers. They may behave slightly differently but once you know how they are set up you can get pretty much any sound you want. It's not about equipment. It's about creativity and know-how.

Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:27 pm
by tempest
GJ Orange wrote:
Have you guys who think fwooty is the bees knees ever used Cubase or Logic?
Nope, been using fruity for a couple of years.. played around with ableton on occasion... But very interested in trying out reason/cubase etc

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 9:27 am
by will-k13
Autopsy wrote:for reason id recomend this book

http://www.htfr.com/more-info/MR217680

starts with the absolute basics and covers every effect and instrument :4:
Cheers man, that's what I was looking for! Will check it out when i've got monies and times!

So yeah please can more people recommend some books and not make this a topic to argue about Fruity in :?

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:16 am
by i978
Er..sorry bout that, mate. :oops:

To answer your post, I recommend general books on production rather than anything specific to a sequencer. As I said before, the principals don't change - just a way of working.

Bob Katz's "Mastering Audio" is highly recommended. Although aimed at the mastering engineer it's packed with useful info for producers. My mixes have improved massively since reading this.

"The mixing engineers handbook" by Bobby Owsinski is also worth a look - a good place to start.

There are pdf versions of these floating around if you look hard enough.

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:59 am
by kins83
Here's a couple of pdfs. There is a basic one and an advanced one. Worth a look.

http://www.propellerheads.se/download/f ... nglish.pdf <-- Basic One

http://www.eltentaculo.com/arti_tut/tut ... Manual.pdf <-- Advanced One

Hope this helps. :D:

Thanks guys!

Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 4:05 pm
by will-k13
i978 wrote:Er..sorry bout that, mate. :oops:

To answer your post, I recommend general books on production rather than anything specific to a sequencer. As I said before, the principals don't change - just a way of working.

Bob Katz's "Mastering Audio" is highly recommended. Although aimed at the mastering engineer it's packed with useful info for producers. My mixes have improved massively since reading this.

"The mixing engineers handbook" by Bobby Owsinski is also worth a look - a good place to start.

There are pdf versions of these floating around if you look hard enough.
Cheers man I will try my various nefarious ways of getting things to see if I can find .pdf
kins83 wrote:Here's a couple of pdfs. There is a basic one and an advanced one. Worth a look.

http://www.propellerheads.se/download/f ... nglish.pdf <-- Basic One

http://www.eltentaculo.com/arti_tut/tut ... Manual.pdf <-- Advanced One

Hope this helps. :D:
Cheers they are downloaded and i'm gonna set aside time later to have a look.

I'm sure they will help cause I have absolutely no idea at the mo!

EDIT: Also reference for Ableton Live 6 would be most appreciated!! :D