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Ableton EQ

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 5:59 am
by viberous
Is it just me or does anyone else not like the ableton eq. I feel like it never makes appropriate or sharp enough cuts. I find myself relying more on the auto filter to hi or lowpass. Just curious

Thanks! :W:

Re: Ableton EQ

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 6:28 am
by billybuxton
viberous wrote:Is it just me or does anyone else not like the ableton eq. I feel like it never makes appropriate or sharp enough cuts. I find myself relying more on the auto filter to hi or lowpass. Just curious

Thanks! :W:
I love the EQ in Ableton
I just don't like how you can't pull Ableton effects and instruments around the screen like you can with 3rd part plugins :u:

Re: Ableton EQ

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:35 am
by eldoogle
I use EQ 8 to boost or cut, but an auto filter always to high pass. Sharper slope I'm assuming is why.

Re: Ableton EQ

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 8:57 am
by RandoRando
billybuxton wrote:
viberous wrote:Is it just me or does anyone else not like the ableton eq. I feel like it never makes appropriate or sharp enough cuts. I find myself relying more on the auto filter to hi or lowpass. Just curious

Thanks! :W:
I love the EQ in Ableton
I just don't like how you can't pull Ableton effects and instruments around the screen like you can with 3rd part plugins :u:
You can its somewhere in the settings. And I love the EQ. one of the stronger eq's I've used. OP make a bigger Q

Re: Ableton EQ

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 9:46 am
by um4mi
I also use it quite a bit, EQ8 that is.. Mainly because it's convenient, but i find it does it's job well..

Re: Ableton EQ

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 3:32 pm
by Sharmaji
actually quite a nice-sounding stock EQ.

Re: Ableton EQ

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 4:58 pm
by StratosFear
I really like Ableton's EQ8...EQ3 not so much. It pretty much has everything I could need.

Re: Ableton EQ

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:15 pm
by mecanek
It does its job well enough for me :) Don't forget to turn on "high quality" (right mouse click in the top bar) for more precise cutting :)

Re: Ableton EQ

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:24 am
by viberous
Oh wow just found the "high quality" mode...gonna see if this is better to me. I guess it could also be my room/monitors/ears...or a combination lol

Re: Ableton EQ

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 4:28 am
by Sine69
mecanek wrote:It does its job well enough for me :) Don't forget to turn on "high quality" (right mouse click in the top bar) for more precise cutting :)

You, sir, just blew my fucking mind. I've been using live for close to a year now and I never knew you could do that :lol:

Re: Ableton EQ

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:46 am
by subfect
viberous wrote:Is it just me or does anyone else not like the ableton eq. I feel like it never makes appropriate or sharp enough cuts. I find myself relying more on the auto filter to hi or lowpass. Just curious

Thanks! :W:
You can make it sharper by raising the resonance. The default resonance is actually a little under 0, so raising it a little takes it to 0 and steepens the curve. You can also use multiple eq passes to make sharper curves if needs be. You can basically take the curve from 6db/octave (resonance all the way down) to about 24db/octave (resonance quite high). Just remember that sharp curves = synthetic sound, which may be what you want :)

I actually really like the ableton EQ, but it does have its limitations.

Re: Ableton EQ

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:21 am
by UnCL0NED
I feel you!
I recommend you check out some 3rd party plugins. I demoed and love both DMGaudio EQuality and Fabfilter Pro-Q for their transparency and easy handling. I recently purchased EQuality and I use it a lot myself. EQ8 colors the sound too much in my opinion and I sometimes get the feeling it is not very accurate.
When I cut frequencies EQ8 gives me the feeling that some of those frequencies are still bleeding through. Maybe it's not true and it's just the Spectrum analyzer that is off (when I put it behind the EQ8). For low and high pass filtering I think the EQ3 is a better choice if you don't want to invest in other plugins.

Re: Ableton EQ

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:28 am
by jrisreal
reaeq is a great freeware eq for those of you that dislike eq8

Re: Ableton EQ

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:24 am
by RandoRando
EQ8 is byfar my favorite EQ so far because of its built in mid/side processing

Re: Ableton EQ

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 9:32 am
by subfect
RandoRando wrote:EQ8 is byfar my favorite EQ so far because of its built in mid/side processing
huh!? :O

Re: Ableton EQ

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 10:28 am
by Mehlovich
subfect wrote:
RandoRando wrote:EQ8 is byfar my favorite EQ so far because of its built in mid/side processing
huh!? :O

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar11/a ... 11.htm#Top

Re: Ableton EQ

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:26 am
by RandoRando
subfect wrote:
RandoRando wrote:EQ8 is byfar my favorite EQ so far because of its built in mid/side processing
huh!? :O
look in the bottom of the EQ8 where it says stereo, you can change change that to L/R (eq left and right channels seperately, or Mid/Side (eq the sides and middle of the sound seperately

Re: Ableton EQ

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:31 pm
by um4mi
mecanek wrote:It does its job well enough for me :) Don't forget to turn on "high quality" (right mouse click in the top bar) for more precise cutting :)
WUT?!@!@ :o

:corndance:

Re: Ableton EQ

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:04 pm
by mecanek
Sine69 wrote:
mecanek wrote:It does its job well enough for me :) Don't forget to turn on "high quality" (right mouse click in the top bar) for more precise cutting :)

You, sir, just blew my fucking mind. I've been using live for close to a year now and I never knew you could do that :lol:
Yeah, it's pretty weird they've hidden it over there, while everything else is so easily accessible and cleverly laid out :?

Re: Ableton EQ

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:58 pm
by blinx
i use the hell out of eq8... never knew about HQ or the Mid-side stuff lol YAYA for a decent knowledgable thread again on DSF. +1 guys.