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				production advice
				Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 10:50 am
				by jimmy the flid
				right newbie here
you there
now we have that established i would appretiate some advice
i love dubstep but cant get my noggin round how to produce it
like the drum patterns wich is the thing that attracts me to the genre boggle my noggin the mule
i just cant seem to get it right
then theres the bass again dont know what im doing
so i tried to make some thing inorder for people to tell me what im doing wrong
i made this by sampling and using acid pro
getting albeton live inthe next few days so i can make my own sounds 
if need be i can happily list every thing i sampled
 "baw deep - cider.mp3" (1118 KB)
its at 192kbps
only 47 seconds long
http://s65.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1E68 ... CWZRD3X1WO
if this link dosnt work give me a shout
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 1:08 pm
				by shonky
				Couldn't download the file - I think that it's probably better to avoid programming patterns and get yourself some sort of midi keyboard/drum pad which you can tap the rhythms into. 
When I started I found that if you record the bass and snare on one channel (separate them later for mixing) it's quite easy to tap the beats in to the click-track. Saves a lot of time and you end up with much better sounding beats. If you can tap out rhythms on a table, there's no reason why you can't do it in Live. Saves having to translate what you're thinking to the piano-roll editor
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:29 pm
				by the grumpy one
				what the fuck was that beep for at the end of the tune?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:38 pm
				by auralassassin
				I dunno... I put 320's out sometimes and put markers in them so I know which asshole leaked my tracks, should they ever find their way onto the "black market"
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:39 pm
				by 8bitwonder
				auralassassin wrote:I dunno... I put 320's out sometimes and put markers in them so I know which asshole leaked my tracks, should they ever find their way onto the "black market"
how dya do that?
thatd be handy to know
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:59 pm
				by auralassassin
				like was said, just some barely audible bleep or skip in the music.. something that you, as the producer will know to listen for--but anyone else will look past...
like if you've ever downloaded a movie screener or something it will say "Submitted for awards consideration only" at a certain place in the movie, so they know who fucked them by ripping the awards screener of Mary Poppins or whatever.
just a little skip in the track, or something that won't be noticable, but obviously at a part of the track that won't be just cut off by the person, so not at the very beginning or very end.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:42 pm
				by 8bitwonder
				auralassassin wrote:like was said, just some barely audible bleep or skip in the music.. something that you, as the producer will know to listen for--but anyone else will look past...
like if you've ever downloaded a movie screener or something it will say "Submitted for awards consideration only" at a certain place in the movie, so they know who fucked them by ripping the awards screener of Mary Poppins or whatever.
just a little skip in the track, or something that won't be noticable, but obviously at a part of the track that won't be just cut off by the person, so not at the very beginning or very end.
thats really clever-i usually just send it through the post and unopen it or send a copy to my solicitor-hell keep it on file 4 a tenner..
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 5:49 pm
				by auralassassin
				that works for the "poor mans copyright"
I'm just talking about making the copies that you send to each person sound slightly different in some way, that way when someone leaks the track, you know who it was--so you don't keep sending them your tracks 

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:28 pm
				by 8bitwonder
				auralassassin wrote:that works for the "poor mans copyright"
I'm just talking about making the copies that you send to each person sound slightly different in some way, that way when someone leaks the track, you know who it was--so you don't keep sending them your tracks 

 
ill give it a go ithink i might just put thye name of the person in the mix before a drop or somthin
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:31 pm
				by auralassassin
				8bitwonder wrote:auralassassin wrote:that works for the "poor mans copyright"
I'm just talking about making the copies that you send to each person sound slightly different in some way, that way when someone leaks the track, you know who it was--so you don't keep sending them your tracks 

 
ill give it a go ithink i might just put thye name of the person in the mix before a drop or somthin
 
lol, then when they play it out, people will hear that though and be like "what the fuck was that?"
like the person listening to THIS track did 
 
it should just be subtle 

 
			
					
				
				Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:40 pm
				by 8bitwonder
				auralassassin wrote:8bitwonder wrote:auralassassin wrote:that works for the "poor mans copyright"
I'm just talking about making the copies that you send to each person sound slightly different in some way, that way when someone leaks the track, you know who it was--so you don't keep sending them your tracks 

 
ill give it a go ithink i might just put thye name of the person in the mix before a drop or somthin
 
lol, then when they play it out, people will hear that though and be like "what the fuck was that?"
like the person listening to THIS track did 
 
lol
it should just be subtle 
