ive been trying to get close to this sound for a while and i just cant seem to get close to the depth and wideness of the sound. i have been messing about with the using bandpass/bandreject filters and lots of reverb/delay but it just doesnt get nearly as deep
in this song the chord-synth comes in at 0:30 seconds.
Re: dark chord synth design
Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 11:14 pm
by joshisrad
Vocoder!
Re: dark chord synth design
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:52 am
by sook
he uses the dark chord synth VST...
nothing else is that dark... or deep...
Re: dark chord synth design
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:21 am
by Kasshern
Hi that type of chord synth make me think of the one you hear in dub techno like "rythm and sound" and that kind of stuff...you should maybe looking for dub techno chord tutorial or patch walkthrough, i think i've seen some on http://www.massivesynth.com/.
Re: dark chord synth design
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:07 pm
by boot
sook wrote:he uses the dark chord synth VST...
nothing else is that dark... or deep...
Coded by the ghost of Poe himself
Re: dark chord synth design
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:15 pm
by 3rdeye
stoked when I saw this thread
I actually broke down how I made that chord stab in another thread a wee while back, I've copy/pasted it below... if you need more info I'd be happy to go into more detail.
"I made them out of a pad sound that I made for a previous tune. I think it was a simple PWM pad that I made with Logic's ES2, layered with a bandpass sweep pad preset from Blue and loads of pitched-down timestretched vinyl crackle atmos/ambience that started life as an Apple Loop.
Layered about 3-4 different variations of the pad sounds and ambiences, then bounced out a minor chord - about 8 bars of sustained chord, with all the layers in. Whacked that in a sampler, then did the final filter modulation using Fabfilter Volcano - it's an LFO or envelope modulating the cutoff that gives it the 'stabby' feel."
big ups and good luck!
and lol @ Boot and Sook, shhhhh thems supposed to be secretssttsts
Re: dark chord synth design
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:16 pm
by westernsynthetics
sook wrote:he uses the dark chord synth VST...
nothing else is that dark... or deep...
You have been deceived. Its actually a bunch of bannana leaves hand picked from Byron bay being towed behind a ford courier ute through paddock of sunflowers while in neutral with the engine turned off down a steep hill with 5 british backpackers we hired for a slab of VB singing 4 part harmonies in the tray. I know cause I was there when we recorded it. We had stereo mics strapped to the back of the ute and it was going down at 88 into my MBOX 2 PRO with Pro Tools. We then reversed it in post, stuck it though 2 mesa boogie amps in stereo mic'd up in a 30x40 meter warehouse in Marrickville called Dirty Shirlows. Good luck replicating it.
Re: dark chord synth design
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 12:21 pm
by sook
westernsynthetics wrote:
sook wrote:he uses the dark chord synth VST...
nothing else is that dark... or deep...
You have been deceived. Its actually a bunch of bannana leaves...
we promised not tell...
Re: dark chord synth design
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 4:52 pm
by joshisrad
Please tell me someone else hears the vocoder effect.
Re: dark chord synth design
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 6:00 pm
by Kasshern
You mean on the attack on the sound?i hear a bit of vocoder too but you can achieve that sound by an other way i think...
Re: dark chord synth design
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:09 pm
by joshisrad
No I swear it sounds like it's being processed through a vocoder, like how you can use vocoders as EQs.
Re: dark chord synth design
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 7:34 pm
by Kasshern
yep it reminds a bit of the sound when you put the ableton vocoder and adjust the formant settings...is it what you are talking about?
Re: dark chord synth design
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:10 am
by 3rdeye
joshisrad wrote:No I swear it sounds like it's being processed through a vocoder, like how you can use vocoders as EQs.
I can promise you it has not been processed through a vocoder. In the post above, I explained how I made it. No vocoder
Re: dark chord synth design
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:14 am
by balthazarely
thanks for all the input, im going to work on it now
Re: dark chord synth design
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:16 am
by balthazarely
big ups 3rdeye!
Re: dark chord synth design
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:46 am
by Ghost of Muttley
westernsynthetics wrote:
sook wrote:he uses the dark chord synth VST...
nothing else is that dark... or deep...
You have been deceived. Its actually a bunch of bannana leaves hand picked from Byron bay being towed behind a ford courier ute through paddock of sunflowers while in neutral with the engine turned off down a steep hill with 5 british backpackers we hired for a slab of VB singing 4 part harmonies in the tray. I know cause I was there when we recorded it. We had stereo mics strapped to the back of the ute and it was going down at 88 into my MBOX 2 PRO with Pro Tools. We then reversed it in post, stuck it though 2 mesa boogie amps in stereo mic'd up in a 30x40 meter warehouse in Marrickville called Dirty Shirlows. Good luck replicating it.
Nah dude that's how Sueb(m)e made their jeans
Re: dark chord synth design
Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 6:04 am
by Electric_Head
is this what happens in the production forum over the wknd?
I`m surprised no-one mentioned Hamvst or DubTurbo
Re: dark chord synth design
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:23 am
by 3rdeye
Electric_Head wrote:is this what happens in the production forum over the wknd?
I`m surprised no-one mentioned Hamvst or DubTurbo
amidst the fun, the information was dispensed to the correct party successfully, and certainly not using a vocoder
Re: dark chord synth design
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:00 am
by joshisrad
3rdeye wrote:
Electric_Head wrote:is this what happens in the production forum over the wknd?
I`m surprised no-one mentioned Hamvst or DubTurbo
amidst the fun, the information was dispensed to the correct party successfully, and certainly not using a vocoder
Man I was thinking why the fuck is this guy so sure, it sounds like a vocoder to me, then I clicked the youtube video and saw the title is "3rdeye remix" XD
Re: dark chord synth design
Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 2:11 am
by 3rdeye
joshisrad wrote:
3rdeye wrote:
Electric_Head wrote:is this what happens in the production forum over the wknd?
I`m surprised no-one mentioned Hamvst or DubTurbo
amidst the fun, the information was dispensed to the correct party successfully, and certainly not using a vocoder
Man I was thinking why the fuck is this guy so sure, it sounds like a vocoder to me, then I clicked the youtube video and saw the title is "3rdeye remix" XD