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180g
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:38 pm
by leeany
What are the advantages of 180 gram vinyl over normal vinyl ? Does it take longer for 180 gram to wear out or something ?
And would you rather pay a bit more and have a 180g plate or pay a bit less and have a normal one ?
Re: 180g
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 10:59 pm
by _cheef_
tbh I don't get the hoopla about 180g vinyl...the pressings sound quieter and they're heavier to lug around.
Fuck 180g.

Re: 180g
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:25 pm
by Raad
Feels better to mix. Never noticed anything different pressing wise.
Re: 180g
Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2012 11:29 pm
by vishes
Well I certainly prefer holding a nice and heavy 180 gram plate than one of those thin wobbly ones.
Don't know about any differences in sound quality or durability though.
Re: 180g
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:29 am
by Phigure
i don't know if there's a difference in durability or quality either, but they feel soooo much nicer to hold and handle.
Re: 180g
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:38 am
by leeany
Yeah I agree that 180 records feel better holding them in ur hands. I was just wondering if there were any other benefits to them, since I just clocked that 180's are a lot more expensive to press
Re: 180g
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:38 pm
by mugger t
more solid - less unwanted vibrations, still a poor pressing on 180 doesn't make it any better than the standard weight
Re: 180g
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:47 pm
by smokeybeenz
i like 180g for mixing on my technics but i dont have two technics i have a crappy citronic as my second deck and with 180g when im trying to cue or back spin all hell breaks loose, so imo i think 180 is perfect if you have all technics but sometimes the slightly crappier decks they slide and dont do the correct things just my 5p though could be different for other people.
Re: 180g
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:47 pm
by untightled
All about the weight
Re: 180g
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:07 pm
by JBoy
Is it true that if you play a record more than once in 24 hours it gets damaged? Something about the vinyl needing time to re mold correctly after its been played. Pretty sure its bullshit but heard a lot of people say it.
Re: 180g
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:08 pm
by bass_culture
They definitely feel really nice to hold, but other than that I don't really prefer mixing with them over lighter pressed records.
Re: 180g
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:14 pm
by Be-1ne
JBoy wrote:Is it true that if you play a record more than once in 24 hours it gets damaged? Something about the vinyl needing time to re mold correctly after its been played. Pretty sure its bullshit but heard a lot of people say it.
Hahahaha what a load of bollocks.
The weight applies to the amount of vinyl used for the pressing. The more vinyl used, the better the pressing as you get deeper grooves allowing for better
tracking on playback and better sound reproduction.
You can get equally good pressings on 140g vinyl, I don't think personally I've ever come across a bad 180g pressing. But it is generally noted that 180g gives a better record once pressed.
for dubstep Deep Medi's are usually 180g (to the best of my knowledge) most others are 150g.
for those interested in cutting dubs, 180g vinyl is the closest you will get to the feel of playing with a dubplate due to the weight and feel.
Re: 180g
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:23 pm
by scattybeanhead
they do feel nicer but lugging them around can be a pain. i don't think they're massively better than regular ones, it's only certain releases that are really flimsy that winds me up a bit. like kromestar's get darker release, so thin, almost put me off buying it, i feel like im gonna break it every time i get it out!
Re: 180g
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:29 pm
by Be-1ne
I've said this lots of times before - but as someone who used to work as a production manager at a vinyl pressing plant -
180 gram weight somehow being "better sounding" is one of the biggest myths in audio there is. Contrary to common misconception groove depth is set during mastering - as long as the biscuit the record is pressed from is the minimum weight needed for good fill (easily achievable at 120 grams) then the weight of the record has absolutely no effect on this. Heavier records are indeed easier to make sure they are flat and stay that way - but this factor is easily achievable at weights of around 130 grams.
The quality and care put into the mastering, pressing and plating has substantial more to do with the sound of a record than the weight of the record ever does. One thing though - pressing plants will sometimes put more effort into quality control of their heavier weights as they realize anyone ordering 180grams or above is looking for an "audiophile" oriented product. Anyway - I personally think that 140grams is more than enough to make a good record with.
Best regards,
Steve Berson
taken from gearslutz
Re: 180g
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 7:53 pm
by _cheef_
scattybeanhead wrote:they do feel nicer but lugging them around can be a pain. i don't think they're massively better than regular ones, it's only certain releases that are really flimsy that winds me up a bit. like kromestar's get darker release, so thin, almost put me off buying it, i feel like im gonna break it every time i get it out!
true that...although I don't care for 180s I for sure don't like paper thin plates...
Be-1ne wrote:I've said this lots of times before - but as someone who used to work as a production manager at a vinyl pressing plant -
180 gram weight somehow being "better sounding" is one of the biggest myths in audio there is. Contrary to common misconception groove depth is set during mastering - as long as the biscuit the record is pressed from is the minimum weight needed for good fill (easily achievable at 120 grams) then the weight of the record has absolutely no effect on this. Heavier records are indeed easier to make sure they are flat and stay that way - but this factor is easily achievable at weights of around 130 grams.
The quality and care put into the mastering, pressing and plating has substantial more to do with the sound of a record than the weight of the record ever does. One thing though - pressing plants will sometimes put more effort into quality control of their heavier weights as they realize anyone ordering 180grams or above is looking for an "audiophile" oriented product. Anyway - I personally think that 140grams is more than enough to make a good record with.
Best regards,
Steve Berson
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Re: 180g
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:02 pm
by leeany
Be-1ne wrote:
for dubstep Deep Medi's are usually 180g (to the best of my knowledge) most others are 150g.
Swamp releases are 180g too
Re: 180g
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:07 pm
by apmje
LumiNiscent wrote:Be-1ne wrote:
for dubstep Deep Medi's are usually 180g (to the best of my knowledge) most others are 150g.
Swamp releases are 180g too
He said for dubstep.

Re: 180g
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:19 pm
by bass_culture
LumiNiscent wrote:Be-1ne wrote:
for dubstep Deep Medi's are usually 180g (to the best of my knowledge) most others are 150g.
Swamp releases are 180g too
And DMZ aren't they? Urban Ethics certainly is.
Re: 180g
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:40 pm
by leeany
bass_culture wrote:LumiNiscent wrote:Be-1ne wrote:
for dubstep Deep Medi's are usually 180g (to the best of my knowledge) most others are 150g.
Swamp releases are 180g too
And DMZ aren't they? Urban Ethics certainly is.
the only DMZ release I own is Don't Get It Twisted EP (and eyez vip when it arrives) and I do think it's 180, not sure though
Re: 180g
Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 8:51 pm
by untightled
LumiNiscent wrote:Be-1ne wrote:
for dubstep Deep Medi's are usually 180g (to the best of my knowledge) most others are 150g.
Swamp releases are 180g too
Very glad about this