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Got flamed for making a brostep track i know the vocal is pretty gay but its a remix.. anyway would just like to have someone elses opinion.

s y do u made dat vocals if u think dat they r gay?

its for a remix competition... you had to use the vocals

fuck knows what brostep even is. i mean even trying to define dubstep isn't easy.

as for you your track- if your entering a remix competition, my advice would be don't let a crappy vocal ruin your track. it really is a shit, boring vocal, but do stuff with it to make it more interesting, maybe completely change the vocal structure altogether.. at the end of the day you should not let anything near your work that your not happy with.

the rest of the track is good. nice production..

Not bashing you, but yeah, it is brostep.

the Filthy Polak wrote: at the end of the day you should not let anything near your work that your not happy with.

And i completely agree with the above statement.

yeah fair enough. i guess im still confused about the term. i thought it was characterized by high pitched basslines. i feel like there isnt a thin line one way or the other. whats one persons brostep is another persons dub.

Nah its characterized by the lack of bassweight. Dubsteps original philosophy was a very minimal, sub driven, weighty track that you could feel in your chest through the systems in the club.
Brostep is a testosterone soaked mosh pit of sounds clumped together, with a very maximalist philosophy behind it, and has lost all the bassweight of what dubstep was meant to be.

this should answer your query

I would consider it bro just because every thing is very crushed together and their is no room for the track to breath, it's also very stiff their is no groove it's just a 1,2,3,4 feel.

Sonika wrote:Nah its characterized by the lack of bassweight. Dubsteps original philosophy was a very minimal, sub driven, weighty track that you could feel in your chest through the systems in the club.
Brostep is a testosterone soaked mosh pit of sounds clumped together, with a very maximalist philosophy behind it, and has lost all the bassweight of what dubstep was meant to be.

Who cares? Make what you like and don't worry about what other people want to call it. Brostep is a derogatory term; it really has very little meaning other than for some people to bash on a style of music they don't like. It's kinda like if I went around calling the "deep" tunes Snorestep. Be your own musician. It's all about what you like to hear.

I like it, personally, I think the arrangement and patterns are spot on .. a bit too much noise .. i prefer more bassy, minimalist style .. but den again - dats me .. good work though ..

Brostep? Not sure, only heard about the term recently ... sounds like a yank term .. they still call football soccer ...

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Dreadfunk wrote:Who cares? Make what you like and don't worry about what other people want to call it. Brostep is a derogatory term; it really has very little meaning other than for some people to bash on a style of music they don't like. It's kinda like if I went around calling the "deep" tunes Snorestep. Be your own musician. It's all about what you like to hear.

We call it Brostep in an attempt to seperate it from dubstep, because at the end of the day, it isn't!

People rush tunes and forget about quality, put hardly any emphasis towards sub bass (THE FOCUS OF THE GENRE), smash in high frequency sounds, and have some cheesy ass sample.

Now aside from the rushing of tunes and the lack of quality, if there is a decently produced piece of brostep, then i can appreciate it as good music, i just don't want it being assosciated with dubstep!!

The reputation of the genre is being slowly strangled to death by idiots who don't give a shit about it, who just want to get off their face and dance to high frequency robot squeels and not to mention the vast majority of fools who thinks skrillex invented dubstep. Solution? Seperate brostep from original dubstep into its own genre so dubstep actually gets credit for what it deserves and likewise brostep gets credit for what it too deserves (Because I will admit they are some awesome producers in that area).

So to recap, i personally don't use brostep in a derogatory fashion, i would just like to see it have its own genre name so i can actually have a conversation with someone and not have to say i like 'deep' or 'minimal' when referring to dubstep, but instead, just say 'i like dubstep'.

If people don't like the term Brostep then come up with an alternative name for the genre and start using it, i'm sure it'l catch on seen as brostep spreads through youtube like a plague.

@NasteeN8, at the end of the day just make what you enjoy.

Regardless of genre affiliations, I think it's a great track, the vocals are lame, but the production is good.

FWIW I don't think brostep is just maximalist. Rustie is maximal and it's hardly bro-ed out. Same with some Joker and other future garage music. I think brostep is more removed from the UKG aesthetic and sound. Like this song doesn't sound like it'd fit into the UKG/2-step timeline; it sounds like a club song closer to some type of house or electro, just slower and half-step. Not a judgement, just how I make distinctions in sounds.

Like it or not, the "high pitched" stuff you like to complain about IS dubstep. The term has evolved past what you want it to define, and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. This is the nature of language.

As far as poorly produced brostep... well you aren't listening to the right artists. All the top artists put immense amounts of effort and care into their tunes. Just because it isn't to your tastes doesn't mean it's poorly produced. Sure there are loads of shitty tunes out, but the same could be said for absolutely any genre of music.

And as far as it lacking sub weight... well again I don't know what you are listening to.

Dreadfunk wrote:Like it or not, the "high pitched" stuff you like to complain about IS dubstep. The term has evolved past what you want it to define, and there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. This is the nature of language.

As far as poorly produced brostep... well you aren't listening to the right artists. All the top artists put immense amounts of effort and care into their tunes. Just because it isn't to your tastes doesn't mean it's poorly produced. Sure there are loads of shitty tunes out, but the same could be said for absolutely any genre of music.

And as far as it lacking sub weight... well again I don't know what you are listening to.

I swear you didnt actually read what i wrote and instead just decided to see 'BROSTEP IS WANK' and subsequently took offence from it.

I'll say it again, seen as you obviously choosing to ignore it - the focus of the genre is sub bass; its sub bass driven; the sub bass drives the fucking song, not robot noises.

YES the genre has evolved more into club music, but its a totally different style now, focusing on different aspects of production, just because its the same bpm doesn't mean its still dubstep.

And at the end of the day i'm not fucking complaining about brostep, i don't personally have a problem with the actual music style, i just don't think its dubstep anymore. Furthermore, I used to run a fucking brostep night, when it was first starting off, so it's nothing to do with 'my tastes'. I said there are brostep producers i appreciate, but i never said anything was poorly produced, just that it lacks quality and people dont do that bit extra on their music, they just rush it out because they think it sounds 'sick' when just a days more work could have made it sound crisp as fuck - hence why i stopped listening to it and went back to minimal.

So just to clarify because you seem to think i'm a dubstep elitist who's got nothing but 100% hate for brostep:

- I listen to dubstep,
- For about a year i listenend to brostep and enjoyed it, but it got raped by everyone and their uncle and subsequently the production standard fell.
- So i went back to dubstep, where quite frankly the production quality is only getting better, e.g. Artists like Commodo
- I don't hate brostep, i just think its changed too much to be referred to as dubstep anymore.
- Oh and there's no way you can say that the average sub bass of brostep is anywhere near as good as the average sub bass of dubstep, if you think that, then you're mistaking a 'bassy' midrange for sub bass, but you don't sound that daft.

These same types of genre classification arguments have been going on forever. And now with everyone and their dog making edm and revolutionary websites like soundcloud allowing anyone to share their music just further blurs the lines between distinct genre boundaries. But as far as minimalistic old school dub being able to hold on to their coveted name of dubstep, that ship has sailed with the full mainstream integration of the genre (and its brosteppy sub genres) into the mainstream market. I agree that, dubstep is where most 140 bpm music got its roots from but hearing other terms to describe music at this bpm other than 'dubstep' in popular culture is going to be a hard to push. brostep does have a derogatory slant inherent in its derivation imo, even when the person using the term may not be tyring to imply it in a derogatory context, thats why it causes so much tension and controversy and you dont see too many artists happy to jump on the chance to market their music as brostep. The 'i like to make music for sausage parties' angle probly wont help gain a great following. this is why i agree with some other comments on here in that i do think there are two definitive styles of music within this bpm range but i really dont like brostep and until a less demeaning term becomes invented ill use dubstep as an overarching term to classify all bass music a in this bpm range not only for simplicity but also to avoid pissing anyone off without meaning too.

The track in your six has no bass, it is all midrange, the kick snare and everything. There's no weight behind it.

ok, there's a smidgen of bass in the drop but, it is so overcast by everything above about 100-150hz that your bass doesn't sit loud and proud in the mix, It sort of whimpers in the corner whilst all that rage of the mids and highs fights it out for superiority.