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Hey guys, this is my first tutorial. Pretty simple but effective method of making a reese bass.

Nice, man! Also, awesome background.

nice man. although i think you should make a tutorial further explaining how you further the reese and most of all create your movement. care to do another possibly explaining that?

your tune sounds pretty good so far, i think it will be very interesting once you get some blips and beeps in the spaces.

Thanks for your replies guys! Lolz skyrim. So much skyrim. @Eat bass, yes I plan on continuing these tutorials. Using a complimentary bass might sound nice. I appreciate your view

nice one man! I'll try this in Sytrus later

Just discovered the unison section on the Sytrus GUI...I feel so stupid for not noticing before

Voice makes me sleepyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy


And thats a band reject like filter you made with the EQ. Not band pass.

jrisreal wrote:nice one man! I'll try this in Sytrus later

Just discovered the unison section on the Sytrus GUI...I feel so stupid for not noticing before

Yes sytrus is a great fm synth! Just a wierd interface.

@hxczach And yes that is a band reject, my bad on tat. Hopefully the visual representation was good enough :p

How about a tut on them twisty reeses in your sig. They sound exquisite.

For sure. in the near future And thankyou

Glyphex wrote:For sure. in the near future And thankyou

MOAR

jrisreal wrote:nice one man! I'll try this in Sytrus later

Just discovered the unison section on the Sytrus GUI...I feel so stupid for not noticing before

there's also the oversampling part right underneath it which is probably the most useful thing about sytrus since it gets rid of all the nasty aliasing and it can go up to 64x (although 64x will max out nearly any cpu).
this is for when you make a nice sound but it has too much noisey fuzz/metallic crap going on in the back.

sunny_b_uk wrote:

jrisreal wrote:nice one man! I'll try this in Sytrus later

Just discovered the unison section on the Sytrus GUI...I feel so stupid for not noticing before

there's also the oversampling part right underneath it which is probably the most useful thing about sytrus since it gets rid of all the nasty aliasing and it can go up to 64x (although 64x will max out nearly any cpu).
this is for when you make a nice sound but it has too much noisey fuzz/metallic crap going on in the back.

Thanks!
I've been having issues with that!

no problem!
also @Glyphex im impressed with the preview reeses you had at the start of the video, it sounds miles better than my stupidly LONG fx chain attempt with a bunch of resampling which took over a day. iv messed around with toxic bio in the past & its great but i really don't know how u got such a nice reese with hardly any FX, hats down to you!

Also try WASP(not WASP XT) for reeses, it's amazing.

sunny_b_uk wrote:no problem!
also @Glyphex im impressed with the preview reeses you had at the start of the video, it sounds miles better than my stupidly LONG fx chain attempt with a bunch of resampling which took over a day. iv messed around with toxic bio in the past & its great but i really don't know how u got such a nice reese with hardly any FX, hats down to you!

Thanks for your kind words man. Just pushing that saw through the sine wave seems to do it. I suppose the true definition of a reese is two separate saw waves detuned but this seemed to do the trick

yeah ^ i find that a true reese with two saws gets messy for some reason, 1 saw sounds a lot cleaner but still really gritty, just not as messy. i can't seem to clean up my reeses even with freq splitting, eq, etc etc.

Eat Bass wrote:yeah ^ i find that a true reese with two saws gets messy for some reason, 1 saw sounds a lot cleaner but still really gritty, just not as messy. i can't seem to clean up my reeses even with freq splitting, eq, etc etc.

I'd say lessen the amount of phasing occurring by reducing the detuning. If two oscillating saw waves gets way too messy, it could very easily be because you're either detuning it them both way too much or improperly routing your signal. Don't go overboard with the phasing from detuning both oscillators as too much can definitely turn a perfectly good reese into a mixing nightmare.

Furthermore, your sound should be clean and sound relatively close to what you're trying to create BEFORE post-processing, which means prior to splitting your sound and running it through different signal chains. You should be able to have a clean, bright sound simply after setting initial levels and a few simple notch cuts here and there. Normally with post processing, you're only emphasizing what's already there or building resonance, etc, etc, not cleaning the sound per se.

Also, how are you splitting your frequencies and what kind of chains are you running them through? Be careful with certain frequency ranges and what kind of chain you're running them through.

atticuh wrote:

Eat Bass wrote:yeah ^ i find that a true reese with two saws gets messy for some reason, 1 saw sounds a lot cleaner but still really gritty, just not as messy. i can't seem to clean up my reeses even with freq splitting, eq, etc etc.

I'd say lessen the amount of phasing occurring by reducing the detuning. If two oscillating saw waves gets way too messy, it could very easily be because you're either detuning it them both way too much or improperly routing your signal. Don't go overboard with the phasing from detuning both oscillators as too much can definitely turn a perfectly good reese into a mixing nightmare.

Furthermore, your sound should be clean and sound relatively close to what you're trying to create BEFORE post-processing, which means prior to splitting your sound and running it through different signal chains. You should be able to have a clean, bright sound simply after setting initial levels and a few simple notch cuts here and there. Normally with post processing, you're only emphasizing what's already there or building resonance, etc, etc, not cleaning the sound per se.

Also, how are you splitting your frequencies and what kind of chains are you running them through? Be careful with certain frequency ranges and what kind of chain you're running them through.

yeah I'm detuning +/- 25. ill try like 15. and actually the reese sounds better imo with no fx, then after i add all of the fx. i even try to just distort so subtly like barely at all but by the end it sounds messy.

I'm using zebra btw. make a simple reese. then split using logics multipressor. on the low freq i usually compress, add camel crushers british clean to add some beef and maybe some slight tape saturation. i then add another multipressor split to get rid of the harmonics that went past the split after fx. then on the mids i usually compress, then use kombinat distortion on various settings, some chorus, tape saturation, etc. then on the highs i tend to bit crush slightly, flanger, etc. i try to keep things pretty subtle but it gets messy quick. then i usually resample it only to have as a whole sound so that i can apply a notch filter.

I'm thinking it may be the source like your suggesting. ill try going a little easier on the detuning after.

btw what type of movements should i be modulating pre resampling, like in the initial patch?

i sometimes find that making a long long fx chain can sometimes make things messy, however i tend to fix the mess by using EQs at several points of the chain. sometimes taking a huge notch out of a certain frequency zone then adding more fx etc seems to work sometimes. it totally depends though, you really have to experiment.

Eat Bass wrote: yeah I'm detuning +/- 25. ill try like 15. and actually the reese sounds better imo with no fx, then after i add all of the fx. i even try to just distort so subtly like barely at all but by the end it sounds messy.

Woah, woah, woah! Are we taking cents or semitones? If those are semitones, way too much detuning. If you're talking cents, even 15 may be too high depending on how you're using it, IE if its modulated or if its static.

Eat Bass wrote: I'm using zebra btw. make a simple reese. then split using logics multipressor. on the low freq i usually compress, add camel crushers british clean to add some beef and maybe some slight tape saturation. i then add another multipressor split to get rid of the harmonics that went past the split after fx. then on the mids i usually compress, then use kombinat distortion on various settings, some chorus, tape saturation, etc. then on the highs i tend to bit crush slightly, flanger, etc. i try to keep things pretty subtle but it gets messy quick. then i usually resample it only to have as a whole sound so that i can apply a notch filter.

It looks like you're routing your low, mid, high signals through chains in series. I would suggest instead routing your FX chains in parallel. Also, is British Clean something akin to cabinet emulation? If you can't route your chains in parallel, then definitely take advantage of the dry-wet knobs or dry wet levels on your distortion units. The way your signals are routed I'd imagine they degrade extremely quickly (wet signal run into another distortion unit at wet signal and again). Try and preserve as much of the original signal as possible as most of the perceived strength of the sound is from the original signal.

Eat Bass wrote: btw what type of movements should i be modulating pre resampling, like in the initial patch?

Any kind of filter really; this part comes down to personal preference. LP are particularly popular to use with reeses, but my favorite though are multiple modulated notch cuts.