I'm trying to currently become more acquainted with Ableton. Anyone have any suggestions? I'm coming from a logic pro background, and trying to get more into this workflow, because I feel like it could be inspiring if I can learn to use it effectively. Tips? Tricks? Not technical "press command + c to copy" but more how do you get into the mindset? What IS your mindset to get inspired on Ableton?
Re: Help With Ableton Workflow
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:41 am
by dubesteppe
watch every dubspot, vesper, and other ableton tutorials on youtube. spend a day just watching tutorials
Re: Help With Ableton Workflow
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:55 am
by RandoRando
dubesteppe wrote:watch every dubspot, vesper, and other ableton tutorials on youtube. spend a day just watching tutorials
Re: Help With Ableton Workflow
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:55 pm
by Anne Droid
one thing that really helped me is to create a template that ableton will load.
when i start ableton i have all my instruments laid out, midi notes preprogrammed, channels grouped, return tracks set up, EQs on every channel, etc etc
pretty much everything i would normally have to do on a track is already done, so i can focus on making sounds and fitting things together in arrangement, not setting up channels and getting fx together etc etc
Re: Help With Ableton Workflow
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:15 pm
by Kaslo
Anne Droid wrote:one thing that really helped me is to create a template that ableton will load.
when i start ableton i have all my instruments laid out, midi notes preprogrammed, channels grouped, return tracks set up, EQs on every channel, etc etc
pretty much everything i would normally have to do on a track is already done, so i can focus on making sounds and fitting things together in arrangement, not setting up channels and getting fx together etc etc
Agreed but just be careful not to go too crazy with racking up everything and getting a giant template project set up. It's good to have things you'll always need handy but I often find myself deleting almost every part of my template as it tends to get needlessly complex with the setup I had. A balance of intuitive workflow vs. room to get creative is good.
Re: Help With Ableton Workflow
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:36 am
by Insahn
Look up ill.gates as well
Re: Help With Ableton Workflow
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:27 am
by Sonika
JoeOsoDopke wrote:I'm trying to currently become more acquainted with Ableton. Anyone have any suggestions? I'm coming from a logic pro background, and trying to get more into this workflow, because I feel like it could be inspiring if I can learn to use it effectively. Tips? Tricks? Not technical "press command + c to copy" but more how do you get into the mindset? What IS your mindset to get inspired on Ableton?
I like Logic's workflow a lot more than Ableton's.
Re: Help With Ableton Workflow
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:40 am
by ehbes
i knew before even opening the thread just see the title and that sonika had posted i knew he was gonna be saying something about logic
Re: Help With Ableton Workflow
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:00 am
by Sonika
ehbrums1 wrote:i knew before even opening the thread just see the title and that sonika had posted i knew he was gonna be saying something about logic
I love Logic's workflow, I'm a huge supporter of it, especially when comparing it to Ableton, which I've worked with a lot
Re: Help With Ableton Workflow
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:28 am
by Huts
sonika is the ultimate logic fanboy
Re: Help With Ableton Workflow
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:47 am
by Sonika
You know it.
And proud of it.
Re: Help With Ableton Workflow
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 8:54 am
by DefKone1
Insahn wrote:Look up ill.gates as well
What this guy said. ill.gates is a genius with ableton. Also, do you work in session view or arrangement view? I've found that unless I'm doing a live performance, session view can be a brick wall when trying to create a song.
Re: Help With Ableton Workflow
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 9:50 am
by CaveLvl
DefKone1 wrote:
Insahn wrote:Look up ill.gates as well
What this guy said. ill.gates is a genius with ableton. Also, do you work in session view or arrangement view? I've found that unless I'm doing a live performance, session view can be a brick wall when trying to create a song.
Yeah I dont use the illgates template because i have built up my own drum rack full of samplers. But the EQ racks and effects are worth it. Some of the best money i have ever spent.
Re: Help With Ableton Workflow
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 1:33 pm
by Alistairr
make a simple mix in arrangement mode, this is how i started...a mix is pretty straight forward, u dont have to worry about locating any of the effects etc, unless u really want to use them, this should get u in tune with the layout pretty rapidly.
then load up some samples in session mode and jsut trigger them off, and ull quickly realise how easy it is to develop an idea in ableton.
Re: Help With Ableton Workflow
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:04 pm
by Immerse
i have tried integrating session view in to make workflow but am having a tough time making it work
Re: Help With Ableton Workflow
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:15 pm
by leeany
Sonika wrote:
ehbrums1 wrote:i knew before even opening the thread just see the title and that sonika had posted i knew he was gonna be saying something about logic
I love Logic's workflow, I'm a huge supporter of it, especially when comparing it to Ableton, which I've worked with a lot
wow, out of all programs I've used I love the workflow in Ableton the most and in Logic the least
Re: Help With Ableton Workflow
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:51 pm
by JTMMusicuk
yeah logic makes me want to put my fist through the screen when im using it, loads of small things which seem like theyre designed only to anoy you
Re: Help With Ableton Workflow
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:52 pm
by Sonika
LumiNiscent wrote:
Sonika wrote:
ehbrums1 wrote:i knew before even opening the thread just see the title and that sonika had posted i knew he was gonna be saying something about logic
I love Logic's workflow, I'm a huge supporter of it, especially when comparing it to Ableton, which I've worked with a lot
wow, out of all programs I've used I love the workflow in Ableton the most and in Logic the least
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree but...
Ableton - constant switching between the windows, a pain in the ass, and the arrange window is incredibly inefficient
Logic - you have it all right there, with all the windows accessible at the click of a button, much smoother and well put together.
Re: Help With Ableton Workflow
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 4:57 pm
by Immerse
Sonika wrote:
Ableton - constant switching between the windows, a pain in the ass, and the arrange window is incredibly inefficient
I never find myself switching between and windows. the only 'windows' i think you might be referring to are arrange and session view?
Re: Help With Ableton Workflow
Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:05 pm
by Sonika
Immerse wrote:
Sonika wrote:
Ableton - constant switching between the windows, a pain in the ass, and the arrange window is incredibly inefficient
I never find myself switching between and windows. the only 'windows' i think you might be referring to are arrange and session view?
Yup, that's what I mean. It's constant and super annoying.
