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After reading numerous posts, now I'm even more confused.

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:11 am
by zipperback
I'm looking at buying an audio interface and a set of monitors which will be good for my purposes.
My workstation is Windows based, and my DAW is Ableton.

Production of bass heavy music is obviously a concern here for me, but Dubstep isn't the only genre of music that I have an interest in.

Considering this is dubstepforum.com I think I can leave off the dubstep artist examples.. :)

Some examples of my non-dubstep music interests would be stuff:

Nachtmahr - Can You Feel The Beat


Aesthetic Perfection - Inhuman


PSYCLON NINE - Parasitic



For the audio interface I'm looking at something from Presonus such as one of the following interfaces.

Presonus Audiobox 1818VSL
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http://www.portlandmusiccompany.com/cat ... t_183.html

Presonus Firestudio
Image
http://www.portlandmusiccompany.com/cat ... t_183.html


I'm obviously open to suggestions as to another interface, but given the technical specifications I thought that perhaps these two looked pretty good to me.

Currently I need to be able to have an input for recording a mic for vocals and an instrument such as an electric guitar. Oh and of course, I need the midi interface for keyboard input and such.

I know that I can get a smaller interface with less inputs and outputs and such, but if I go ahead and buy one with more options right now, then I don't need to buy another one at some near point down the road.

However, I suppose I could also be just as happy with something like this interface as well, because I could always just sell it "IF" I find I need to upgrade it at some later point.

Presonus Audiobox 22VSL
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http://www.portlandmusiccompany.com/cat ... t_183.html

I don't "require" the audio interface to be by Presonus, however the general postings and reviews of these products seem to be pretty good.

The store carries a few other interfaces as well, so if you have any suggestions about those, it would be really helpful too.

Here's the link for the audio interfaces they had available.
http://www.portlandmusiccompany.com/cat ... faces.html


As far as my consideration of studio monitors go......

The store has KRK Rokit 5 G2 & Rokit 6 G2, M-Audio AV40 , JBL (couple different ones and sub), and Yamaha HS50M listed on their website so I had initially considered one of those brands, however when I went into their shop to check out the physical monitors themselves they also had a model from Genelec as well. I should have written down the model number, but I think it was an 8020 (smaller one, I think a 5"). The genelec cost $499.00 per monitor (sales person said it was on sale currently), but I really got the feeling that I would end up needing to spend extra money and get the genelec sub if I wanted to get a good bass response.

I read over numerous postings and now I'm even more confused about this stuff. I read over the dubstep production bible from here, but when it came to the genelec it said that if I was looking at these then I probably already now what I am doing. (uhg. obviously I don't know about much about them.)

If you want to actually see the specifications and such for the monitors I'm looking at, they have them listed on their website.

List of monitors...
http://www.portlandmusiccompany.com/cat ... itors.html

They don't have the genelec monitors listed which is kind of annoying actually.
But the music shop is really close by my house, which is why I am looking at buying the hardware from their location. If I just went on a budget consideration the KRK 6's look good, and people seem to be pretty happy with them.

My studio is approximately 10ft x 12ft in size.

I am on somewhat of a budget, but I realize that I don't want to buy something I am going to end up being unhappy with either. So any input and suggestions would be really helpful, because to be honest at this point, I'm more confused about which monitors would be good for me than when I started.

Suggestions? Opinions? Thanks in advance, I honestly do appreciate any input you all might have on this.

Re: After reading numerous posts, now I'm even more confused

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:14 am
by ehbes
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL ... ature=plcp

try this series should give you some good advice, it covers more than just interfaces and monitors

Re: After reading numerous posts, now I'm even more confused

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:18 am
by Hircine
I own a bunch of stuff by presonus including a firestudio. Unless you are mixing in analog or recording tons of stuff simultaneous, you don't need 8 pre amped ins and shit tons of outs. The audiobox is really good, presonus has some killer built in pre amps. For monitors, I'd recommend the rokits 6" or the hs50m. I mixed a lot of metal and hardcore on the rokits and I find them a bit colourful on the low end, but that's taste. The hs50m has a great medium - hi response, it presents a really flat sound and exposes problematic frequencies, but causes a lot of fatigue some say. Both have bad low response due to size. For more bass response go with 8" monitors or a sub, but that in a small or untreated room may cause a mess.

Re: After reading numerous posts, now I'm even more confused

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:06 am
by zipperback
ehbrums1 wrote:http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL ... ature=plcp

try this series should give you some good advice, it covers more than just interfaces and monitors
Thanks.

Re: After reading numerous posts, now I'm even more confused

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:13 am
by zipperback
Hircine wrote:I own a bunch of stuff by presonus including a firestudio. Unless you are mixing in analog or recording tons of stuff simultaneous, you don't need 8 pre amped ins and shit tons of outs. The audiobox is really good, presonus has some killer built in pre amps. For monitors, I'd recommend the rokits 6" or the hs50m. I mixed a lot of metal and hardcore on the rokits and I find them a bit colourful on the low end, but that's taste. The hs50m has a great medium - hi response, it presents a really flat sound and exposes problematic frequencies, but causes a lot of fatigue some say. Both have bad low response due to size. For more bass response go with 8" monitors or a sub, but that in a small or untreated room may cause a mess.
My studio room is prettty small so I do agree an 8" or Sub would probably be a bad choice right now for me.


Thank you.

Re: After reading numerous posts, now I'm even more confused

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:09 pm
by pesky
im looking to convert a small room in my house into a home studio also and have been searching for both an audio interface and a pair of monitors.

i have the same problem, i produce EDM and Bass heavy music so i need something which is going to give me a good low response but with my room being even smaller than the op's (about 7ft by 7ft), this causes problems.

if i identify potential problem frequencies and try to treat the room accordingly, will i be okay to get a bigger sized monitor or is it a complete no-no in a room so small? :?

Re: After reading numerous posts, now I'm even more confused

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:13 pm
by ehbes
pesky wrote:im looking to convert a small room in my house into a home studio also and have been searching for both an audio interface and a pair of monitors.

i have the same problem, i produce EDM and Bass heavy music so i need something which is going to give me a good low response but with my room being even smaller than the op's (about 7ft by 7ft), this causes problems.

if i identify potential problem frequencies and try to treat the room accordingly, will i be okay to get a bigger sized monitor or is it a complete no-no in a room so small? :?
id say no just because your get pretty bad bounce back from your walls and get an inaccurate sound

Re: After reading numerous posts, now I'm even more confused

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:16 pm
by AxeD
Wtf does the genre have to do with the audio interface.

Re: After reading numerous posts, now I'm even more confused

Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:02 pm
by Samuel_L_Damnson
:6: Everything apparently... I just have a bloody alesis pile of cheap crap one and it does the trick.

Re: After reading numerous posts, now I'm even more confused

Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:36 am
by zipperback
AxeD wrote:Wtf does the genre have to do with the audio interface.
I was hoping to get some current opinions as to the monitors & audio interfaces I was considering which is why I posed the images, names, and links to the ones which are available at my local music shop.

As for my mentioning the genre of music, it does have quite a bit to do with my selection of monitors.
Dealing with bass heavy music I need monitors that have a better bass response and work better in the range that my audio is being presented in.