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not accually building one

buyin all the parts n puttin them together.

i have been talkin to a friend who said tht this will be cheaper????

and the pc would preform better??????

depends on the parts. i suggest you ask a geek for assistance since it's easy to fuck up if you have no experience.

well, depending on what you've bought thus far... buying a pre-built machine does have it's advantages. you can get a real decent machine for around $500 (around 245 GBP). So i guess my best advice would be to look at prices and specs carfuly, you may sometimes get a deal buying a packaged set-up. Plus , many times it's not too difficult to upgrade your pre-built PC to Geek status

building a PC yourself is not cheaper. It's a good learning process, but if you're on a strict budget you can usually buy a much more powerful Pc from the likes of Dell as they get all the parts very, very cheaply.

djake wrote:not accually building one

buyin all the parts n puttin them together.

i have been talkin to a friend who said tht this will be cheaper????

and the pc would preform better??????

I don't know if that's actually cheaper but nevertheless you know what's inside the box.
Usually when buying a brand computer you don't even know what motherboard you get, what type of ram (or actually yes : generic ram), hard drive, power supply... And that's pretty much the reason why prices get so low : cause you've lower quality components inside.

Suggestions:
* proc : intel core 2 duo (~E6300) kicks AMDs ass but is a bit more expensive.
* motherboard : the gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 got even cheaper than when I bought it and is just excellent.
* ram : 1 or 2 Go depending on how many softwares you run at the same time.
Don't buy generic ram, only : Kingston, Infineon or Corsair.
Beware : all ram sticks & motherboards may not be compatible. Make sure with your local dealer.
* hard drive : Western Digital or Seagate only.
* sound card : M-AUDIO DELTA AUDIOPHILE 2496 is a good start or an EMU 1212M if it fits the budget.
* video card : go cheap if you don't play much.
* good power supply and cooling system matter too.

Daft tnuc wrote:

djake wrote:not accually building one

buyin all the parts n puttin them together.

i have been talkin to a friend who said tht this will be cheaper????

and the pc would preform better??????

I don't know if that's actually cheaper but nevertheless you know what's inside the box.
Usually when buying a brand computer you don't even know what motherboard you get, what type of ram (or actually yes : generic ram), hard drive, power supply... And that's pretty much the reason why prices get so low : cause you've lower quality components inside.

Suggestions:
* proc : intel core 2 duo (~E6300) kicks AMDs ass but is a bit more expensive.
* motherboard : the gigabyte GA-965P-DS3 got even cheaper than when I bought it and is just excellent.
* ram : 1 or 2 Go depending on how many softwares you run at the same time.
Don't buy generic ram, only : Kingston, Infineon or Corsair.
Beware : all ram sticks & motherboards may not be compatible. Make sure with your local dealer.
* hard drive : Western Digital or Seagate only.
* sound card : M-AUDIO DELTA AUDIOPHILE 2496 is a good start or an EMU 1212M if it fits the budget.
* video card : go cheap if you don't play much.
* good power supply and cooling system matter too.

cheers man just the sorta info i was lookin for!

yer im building my own pc this week and its deff the way to go in my opinion.. every package pc ive used (dell, HP, compaq) sucks balls compared to a pc that someones spent the same amount of money on seperate components

i might av found somone tht will build it for me aswell, my mother is a teacher and is askin her I.T technican at her skool, so dat will be sweet.

if you are building a pc - do it yourself - your mate will end up building it to a spec the He thinks is good - If you do it you will learn loads.
if you must have a pc then by a pre built on - the reason macs are so stable is that all the components are made by mac and therefore communicate with each other perfectly - you are only going to get this type of internal build quality with a pc if you go to Dell or another big name company - like em or not the Dell technicians build will piss on whatever your mate says he can build you- - but i could be wrong - your mate could be an it genius

i disagree, dell puts together what they think is good.. whereas buying your own parts, or having a mate with computer knowledge build it with input from you about your needs customises shit proper....

only had bad experience with packages

Daft tnuc's right, and I'd add Hitachi for the HDD and 2 gigs of ram (a must if you wanna run Vista). And check sites like tomshardware.com for charts/guides.

tempest wrote:i disagree, dell puts together what they think is good.. whereas buying your own parts, or having a mate with computer knowledge build it with input from you about your needs customises shit proper....

only had bad experience with packages

There are major beneifts from building yourself - I built mine
Learnt loads - mainly that im never going to bother with the hassle of building another one.
If this chap is new to buying specifically built systems then he would be wise to put his faith in experts to build it rather than a mate who has built his own machine a couple of times and wants to give it another go.
Either way he would need to research - motherboard in particular - any new dell that runs dual core has great build quality, and the motherboards they use now compliment the rest of the components to a very high standard.
I agree that in the past their package pcs were not the best - but they have stepped up their game recently, believe.
depends how much budget he has - also carrilon did good packaged pc's if i remember correctly.

get yourself an antic static wristband you dont want to spend £100s on components then fuck them up with static

Compatibilty issues!

certified self builder here ,
if ya unsure on what u doing and just say using bios they go dell or scan they make decent pc's
as said here the more mainstreem the worse quality of components
go check out scan seriously

u should also think what are u using it for ?

music production ?
browsing?
gamming?
video editing?

how long do you want it to last with out needing upgrades ?

hit me up via mail if ya want

peace

creepz wrote:certified self builder here ,
if ya unsure on what u doing and just say using bios they go dell or scan they make decent pc's
as said here the more mainstreem the worse quality of components
go check out scan seriously

u should also think what are u using it for ?

music production ?
browsing?
gamming?
video editing?

how long do you want it to last with out needing upgrades ?

hit me up via mail if ya want

peace

Your chest.

built my machine (shuttle small form factor) about 3 years ago. i love it. have added bits and pieces here and there, and it is still running strong.

if you have a friend who can do it, watch and learn.

and mine ended up being a good price, so i have no complaints about that.

+1 for the hitachi harddrives by the way.

hitatchi? no way! i guess they've gotten better since i last built a PC. honestly, if you've got the parts, and the OS (remember that part? yeah, get it somehow or another.. or your gonna be hurtin') its really easy. Still, get a friend who knows how to do it to build it with you. the experience can really really help.

god i rememeber one time the machine i spent hours on wasn't properly POSTing, and i couldnt figure out why. i took the ram back and got new ram. twice. finally, i figured out it was because the 1st ram slot wasnt fully connecting to the ram, because i forgot to screw in 1 screw on the motherboard.

shit like that only experience can give you. the guy at the store never tells you about that stuff.

also, dont forget a badass heatsink, and if your going to do proper "studio" work, think about getting quiet fans as well. for production tho, i wouldnt bother, unless your recording something every now and then.

building PCs is fun, teaches you a LOT, and brings out your innner nerd (or in my case, im just a nerd). for the record tho. i have a mac now

I say build your own for sure. I just like picking out a really cool case.

Did i hear someone say mac? I hate macs. But love there ads - PC is cool as!

Plus - pirate software. I've never bought a single program except for games my entire life.

twitch wrote:I say build your own for sure. I just like picking out a really cool case.

Did i hear someone say mac? I hate macs. But love there ads - PC is cool as!

Plus - pirate software. I've never bought a single program except for games my entire life.

yeah totally. all music should be free too

obviously you've never used a mac. if you HATE them... i love both pcs and macs... whatev tho... whatev...