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At what freq cutoff do you start to make your lows mono?

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:25 am
by joshisrad
I've heard that 250 and under is a good cutoff to set things (basses esp.) in mono but whenever I set my wide ass bass patches under 250hz to mono it sounds not nearly as wide.

The reason for setting low freqs in mono is so it doesn't fuck up vinyl right? Is there a scientifically sound answer for what the cutoff freq should be or is it just a personal preference?

Re: At what freq cutoff do you start to make your lows mono?

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:41 am
by chaotix
i usually just make my sub mono, anything below 100hz. anything above, i usually don't turn into mono. that's just me though.

Re: At what freq cutoff do you start to make your lows mono?

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:43 am
by syrup
100-150 usually

Re: At what freq cutoff do you start to make your lows mono?

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:56 am
by joshisrad
God that sounds much better than 250

Got the 250hz from this q&a http://glitchhopforum.com/glitch-hop-pr ... 40-25.html

Re: At what freq cutoff do you start to make your lows mono?

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:55 pm
by cryptic
220 Hz

Re: At what freq cutoff do you start to make your lows mono?

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:01 pm
by coogcoo
whatever sounds good, i usually make a sub, bottom kick and bottom snare (these are usually like 909 hits) all mono

Re: At what freq cutoff do you start to make your lows mono?

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:41 pm
by lowpass
Usually anywhere between 200-400 Hz

Re: At what freq cutoff do you start to make your lows mono?

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:50 pm
by Turnipish_Thoughts
lowpass wrote:Usually anywhere between 200-400 Hz
<400Hz mono????? The bottom end of a guitars pitch register is below 400Hz man. That's really high for making shit mono imo. I'd say 150 tops

Re: At what freq cutoff do you start to make your lows mono?

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:52 pm
by e-motion
I do mostly sub, kick at mono and some of the snare (don't remember the freq).

But I don't think there's an universal value. Try checking the widden element in mono to see if there were any phase cancelations.

My 2 cents.

Re: At what freq cutoff do you start to make your lows mono?

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:57 pm
by lowpass
Turnipish Thoughts wrote:
lowpass wrote:Usually anywhere between 200-400 Hz
<400Hz mono????? The bottom end of a guitars pitch register is below 400Hz man. That's really high for making shit mono imo. I'd say 150 tops
I know, I'm a rebel right? :6:

On a serious note, if I was mixing guitars I'd probably not mono that low, especially if they were hard panned :W:

Re: At what freq cutoff do you start to make your lows mono?

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:27 pm
by Cubicle
100-150, differs tho. Never above 200 atleast.

Re: At what freq cutoff do you start to make your lows mono?

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:19 am
by efence
think about it....
the reason you keep low in mono is becuase you wont have to worry about the power of your bass phasing.
so if the low of your snare peaks at 200 and you add other sounds/effects/etc. it could loose some ummph. But i would never add anything like stereo effects to the lower end of my snares so why worry.
---just throw a stereo to mono on your master out... if you loose any bass while you a/b test it you have phasing

Re: At what freq cutoff do you start to make your lows mono?

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:13 am
by joshisrad
efence wrote:think about it....
the reason you keep low in mono is becuase you wont have to worry about the power of your bass phasing.
so if the low of your snare peaks at 200 and you add other sounds/effects/etc. it could loose some ummph. But i would never add anything like stereo effects to the lower end of my snares so why worry.
---just throw a stereo to mono on your master out... if you loose any bass while you a/b test it you have phasing
I'm well aware of all this.

Re: At what freq cutoff do you start to make your lows mono?

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:50 am
by dbaxx
Cubicle wrote:100-150, differs tho. Never above 200 atleast.
:h:

Re: At what freq cutoff do you start to make your lows mono?

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 8:52 am
by Hero
play your tracks out on some big pa systems then youll kno exactly what you want in mono mate

Re: At what freq cutoff do you start to make your lows mono?

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 9:39 am
by laurend
Any corner frequency between 1000 Hz and 80 Hz can be used for "monoing" the sub. It depends of the filter's slope and the source material.
When you're not working on a vinyl project, stereo sub can be very effective to produce a super width mix. Just check the mono compatibility then.
Mono sub is great for impact. Stereo sub is great for spacial FX.
You also have to take into account of the system on which your music will be played. Computer 2+1 systems don't support stereo sub nor 80 Hz monoing.