117 Bpm DnB? What? And Why is Dnb sometimes 85 bpm?
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:29 am
by Cadaver
So I was listening to Current Value's Remix of Noisia's Soul Purge, and I wanted to know the bpm out of curiosity. I check beatport and I see it 117 bpm? Also Shellshock and Sunhammer which is wierd because those are the fastest songs on the album. If I wanted to produce in this speed do I double time it? Or is it like when they put a dnb tune at 85 bpm instead of 170 bpm, also can someone explain why they do that as well?
Heres the song:
also Shellshock which is crazy fast.... yet 115 bpm
Re: 117 Bpm DnB? What? And Why is Dnb sometimes 85 bpm?
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:14 am
by joegrizzly
As long as you can get that rhythm going, i guess any bpm is possible... They probably got bored of 170 and 140
Re: 117 Bpm DnB? What? And Why is Dnb sometimes 85 bpm?
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:38 am
by deadly_habit
protip: those sites use automatic detection software which fuck up a ton on dnb, they aren't at those bpms
Re: 117 Bpm DnB? What? And Why is Dnb sometimes 85 bpm?
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:44 am
by Sexual_Chocolate
85 x 2 = 170
Re: 117 Bpm DnB? What? And Why is Dnb sometimes 85 bpm?
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:28 am
by syrup
deadly habit wrote:protip: those sites use automatic detection software which fuck up a ton on dnb, they aren't at those bpms
Dat
Re: 117 Bpm DnB? What? And Why is Dnb sometimes 85 bpm?
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:01 am
by wormcode
Already answered, but yeah a lot of dnb is made at 85 or near, but it's technically the same thing as 170 etc, just half time. You can get more intricate programming when working in half time. As mentioned dnb does often get marked wrong during scans though because of the way it detects beats, and dnb is much more hectic.
Re: 117 Bpm DnB? What? And Why is Dnb sometimes 85 bpm?
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:20 am
by e-motion
Yeah beatport bpm detection sucks!
For example: Porter Robinson - Spitfire (Kill The Noise Remix)
Real BPM: 172 BPM
Beatport BPM: 115 BPM (dafuq?!)
I can understand being 2x or 1/2 (to be truth, the real BPM in Dubstep is 70bpm imho, we just work at half-step) but that one is totally unrelated.
Re: 117 Bpm DnB? What? And Why is Dnb sometimes 85 bpm?
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:31 am
by syrup
115/2 = 57.5
That *3 = 172.5
Re: 117 Bpm DnB? What? And Why is Dnb sometimes 85 bpm?
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:42 am
by Electric_Head
johney wrote:115/2 = 57.5
That *3 = 172.5
where`s the tinfoil hat crew?
Re: 117 Bpm DnB? What? And Why is Dnb sometimes 85 bpm?
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:45 am
by Sexual_Chocolate
x3? triplets maybe?
Re: 117 Bpm DnB? What? And Why is Dnb sometimes 85 bpm?
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:24 am
by RandoRando
shellshock is around 170bpm. which you could also say 60 bpm, same thing. Just depends on the producers preference for the grid.
Re: 117 Bpm DnB? What? And Why is Dnb sometimes 85 bpm?
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:13 pm
by cogidubnus
Some serious mathematicians on these boards
Re: 117 Bpm DnB? What? And Why is Dnb sometimes 85 bpm?
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:46 pm
by mitchAUS
RandoRando wrote:shellshock is around 170bpm. which you could also say 85 bpm, same thing. Just depends on the producers preference for the grid.
Re: 117 Bpm DnB? What? And Why is Dnb sometimes 85 bpm?
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:55 pm
by Samuel_L_Damnson
60 bpm lol. Nice one rando rando.
Re: 117 Bpm DnB? What? And Why is Dnb sometimes 85 bpm?
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:06 pm
by Rekah
all ive got to say is why does it matter, you know its dnb so its going to be around 170bpm just use your ears instead of your eyes
Re: 117 Bpm DnB? What? And Why is Dnb sometimes 85 bpm?
Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:37 pm
by RandoRando
Sinestepper wrote:60 bpm lol. Nice one rando rando.
lol sorry, had a couple drinks before posting that
Dat Drum Programming
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:21 pm
by Cadaver
Thanks guys for the info.
Now about dat drum programming
I am guessing Current Value's Remix was in halftime? Because that snare seems to be slow to be regular timed. But if that's true, how did he make it seem so fast? Or is that just an illusion.
I suppose some of us can try to recreate dat drum programing? What do you guys say?
I buy beer for the winner
Re: 117 Bpm DnB? What? And Why is Dnb sometimes 85 bpm?
Posted: Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:07 pm
by Augment
wormcode wrote:Already answered, but yeah a lot of dnb is made at 85 or near, but it's technically the same thing as 170 etc, just half time. You can get more intricate programming when working in half time. As mentioned dnb does often get marked wrong during scans though because of the way it detects beats, and dnb is much more hectic.
I think you may be misunderstanding, you can get more intricate in 170 than 85. I don't think anyone is making DnB in 85.
Re: 117 Bpm DnB? What? And Why is Dnb sometimes 85 bpm?
Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:31 pm
by rymebox
The same way 90% of people are making dubstep in 140; because you get more control over the drums and such.
