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Classical samples

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:29 pm
by NickyXplosion
Anyone no where to get classical samples like choir symphony bells philharmonic style?

Re: Classical samples

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:34 pm
by idontreallygiveashit
How about downloading some classical music?

Re: Classical samples

Posted: Sat Apr 07, 2012 6:39 pm
by test_recordings
Fruity loops slicer is actually sick at cutting samples up, my mate reworked a violin symphony to some sick hiphop beat

Re: Classical samples

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:01 pm
by alphacat
http://www.custompcblog.com/internet/in ... f-searches

...But this really belongs in Production.

Re: Classical samples

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:05 pm
by dickman69
idontreallygiveashit wrote:How about downloading some classical music?
lol this

why are 90% of you guys so afraid of sampling... :roll:
get in there and get your hands dirty



edit: thought this was in production while responding lol

Re: Classical samples

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:16 pm
by mIrReN
zomby ain't afraid

Re: Classical samples

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:22 pm
by dickman69
mIrReN wrote:zomby ain't afraid
-q- ... :!: :a:

:|



:w:

Re: Classical samples

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:24 pm
by Hircine
Don't know what's up with production recently. Tons of people asking the same questions disregarding old threads full of gold advice, afraid of sampling and trying to sound like electro house producers, going nuts over technical or pointless aspects instead of sitting down and making tunes.

Re: Classical samples

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:33 pm
by alphacat
^

I blame it on all the sugar these likkle 13 year old whippersnappers consume. Their attention span is like... is like...





Wait - what?


;-)

Re: Classical samples

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:41 pm
by Mad_EP
First of all - the easy answer is to say (of course) "Get some classical records and then sample"

BUT -

If you really want to not only find some gems, but also get a good feel for how and where to slice, I'd go so far to say... before you go and sample some records, why not actually sit down and listen to some classical records?


You'd be amazed how much your horizons and expectations can be broadened.

Re: Classical samples

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:56 pm
by dickman69
^ this

listen to dj premier's work before and after he started sampling classical music
even when he'd use the jazz/funk/soul samples he used before, he used them in different ways

Re: Classical samples

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 6:58 pm
by mthrfnk
Aside from sampling yourself, which I'd honestly recommend since sampling classical music has to be one of the easiest sources to sample, Loopmasters have quite an extensive range of string sample packs - the Cinema ones in particular sound really nice.

Re: Classical samples

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:19 pm
by almostskate100
What is the legal restrictions of sampling stuff like this? You just can't sell it for profit right?

Re: Classical samples

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:20 pm
by dickman69
depending sometimes on how old the record is... there may be none

Re: Classical samples

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:24 pm
by Hircine
almostskate100 wrote:What is the legal restrictions of sampling stuff like this? You just can't sell it for profit right?
There are if you treat music as a business. And if you treat it as a business, your music is nothing but a product.

Re: Classical samples

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:26 pm
by lloydy
Hircine wrote:
almostskate100 wrote:What is the legal restrictions of sampling stuff like this? You just can't sell it for profit right?
There are if you treat music as a business. And if you treat it as a business, your music is nothing but a product.
This and film scores :Q:

Re: Classical samples

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:32 pm
by alphacat
almostskate100 wrote:What is the legal restrictions of sampling stuff like this? You just can't sell it for profit right?
Nope. Some copyright holders (Disney, Lucas, etc.) will be more dickish about it than others. At the very least they'll try to make sure the song with the offending sample is removed from wherever you have it posted up, like Youtube etc.

1) Don't take any legal advice off a music forum unless it's a music law forum...
2) If your record sells less than 5000 copies or so, it's probably too below-the-radar for most copyright holders to catch wind of.
3) Avoid well-known recordings; try to find older recordings, and if they're from another country - even better.
4) Find out how much it would cost to license the piece, if possible. Can't hurt right?
5) Try and make the sound unrecognizable.
6) Search the Production forum for keywords like 'copyright,' 'sample clearance,' etc.
7) Google.

Re: Classical samples

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:37 pm
by almostskate100
Word. Thanks for clearing that up guys...I've been sampling old black and white cartoons and weird stuff like that, so I was just curious.

Re: Classical samples

Posted: Mon Apr 09, 2012 7:54 pm
by Mad_EP
almostskate100 wrote:What is the legal restrictions of sampling stuff like this? You just can't sell it for profit right?
It's the same as sampling anything else. Just because the piece of music may be in the public domain, the recording won't...

So legally it is the same as sampling jazz, rock, hiphop, funk, whatever....

Re: Classical samples

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:13 am
by dubdisciple
almostskate100 wrote:What is the legal restrictions of sampling stuff like this? You just can't sell it for profit right?
the legal restrictions are pretty straight forward. It's illegal to distribute it period, even if it's not for profit. Although money is typically the primary motivation in copyright infringement lawsuits, a common cease and desist situation arises when political candidates use songs from artists who are against their political beliefs. There is a lot of misinformation on copyright. This is a comic i picked up at a workshop on copyright a few years back: http://www.law.duke.edu/cspd/comics/ It is mostly geared towards filmmakers, but the info applies across most media. The PDF version is free. With that said, the odds are slim you will get pursued if you are not making money. My point is that, by most US laws, the law is pretty straightforward when it comes to copyrighted material. As far as classical music, the compositions themselves are public domain, but most recordings made after 1923 are copyrighted. Also, new arrangements of these songs may also fall under copyright. I would suggest sampling from places like archive.org or chaecking out schools that make their orchestral performanes available for public use.