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Dubstep patterns?

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:50 pm
by Static Beats
I've been teaching myself Ableton Live and I made a few songs but I haven't been able to figure out how to make flithy dubstep patterns with multiple synths/bass lines. I kinda want to make something that sounds like this around 1:10 -

http://soundcloud.com/krewella/fire-hiv ... la-fuck-on

Can someone help me out or give me a basic ableton live project that I can take a look at?

Re: Dubstep patterns?

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 4:53 pm
by wub
YouTube should have a few Ableton Dubstep tutorials that would be a good place to find these.

Re: Dubstep patterns?

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:02 pm
by ZankUSA
Search up dubstep tutorials, Ableton Live song tutorials.

Another EFFICIENT / GOOD way to learn Ableton is producing other genres. Look up hip hop / trap beat tutorials, dnb tuts, house tuts and etc. Anything will help improve you as an overall producer, give you more inspiration.

Re: Dubstep patterns?

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:05 pm
by Static Beats
I've found a few tutorials on YouTube but I couldn't really find the effect I'm looking for.

Re: Dubstep patterns?

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:12 pm
by didi
Static Beats wrote:I've found a few tutorials on YouTube but I couldn't really find the effect I'm looking for.
You're unlikely to find a tutorial that recreates the exact sound you're trying to create. Understand how what is done creates a similar sound, then build your patch to suit your purpose.

Re: Dubstep patterns?

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:15 pm
by Eat Bass
try taking a song that you know is 140bpm and put it in ableton. then make a few bass lines and put them in the same positions as the bass lines in the song you have loaded into ableton. that will give you an idea of the patterns some pros are using.

Re: Dubstep patterns?

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:55 pm
by Static Beats
Has anyone used the sonic academy tutorials?

Re: Dubstep patterns?

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:03 pm
by wormcode
I'm not sure "dubstep patterns" exist, but I get what you mean.
In that case, what's wrong with listening to it and then transcribing it yourself? Also looking at waveforms can help figure out where someone slices and places hits.

The sonic academy things I've seen are pretty basic. You'd have more luck with the free masterclasses, and downloading remix stems imo.

Re: Dubstep patterns?

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 6:12 pm
by Static Beats
Hmm yeah maybe I'll have better luck slowing down a song and trying to reproduce it.

Re: Dubstep patterns?

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:59 pm
by Dub_Cult
Eat Bass wrote:try taking a song that you know is 140bpm and put it in ableton. then make a few bass lines and put them in the same positions as the bass lines in the song you have loaded into ableton. that will give you an idea of the patterns some pros are using.
How anal are most of you about Dubstep being 140 bpm? I've heard plenty of stuff by legit Dubstep producers that was closer to 120.

Re: Dubstep patterns?

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:39 pm
by hutyluty
Dub_Cult wrote:
Eat Bass wrote:try taking a song that you know is 140bpm and put it in ableton. then make a few bass lines and put them in the same positions as the bass lines in the song you have loaded into ableton. that will give you an idea of the patterns some pros are using.
How anal are most of you about Dubstep being 140 bpm? I've heard plenty of stuff by legit Dubstep producers that was closer to 120.
like what?

Re: Dubstep patterns?

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:40 pm
by Eat Bass
Dub_Cult wrote:
Eat Bass wrote:try taking a song that you know is 140bpm and put it in ableton. then make a few bass lines and put them in the same positions as the bass lines in the song you have loaded into ableton. that will give you an idea of the patterns some pros are using.
How anal are most of you about Dubstep being 140 bpm? I've heard plenty of stuff by legit Dubstep producers that was closer to 120.
that wasn't the point. the reason i said get a dubstep track that you know is 140 because its most common and when you put it in your daw you can set your daw to 140 and not have to worry about shit lining up on the grid. this way you can easily match up the arrangement pattern of the track.

i've made a dubstep song in 120 before, but a general consensus more for DJ's sake is that dubstep is considered around 140 bpm bass music...

Re: Dubstep patterns?

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 9:51 pm
by drake89
i make overly complicated music as far as notes go a the moment. lots of older and newer dubstep uses a 3, 4 or 5 note melody. you can just play the same three notes in 1/4 note, 1/4 note triplet, 1/8, 1/8t, and 1/16 intervals at 140 bpm. Try and use varying note lengths while keeping the pitches the same, or use different notes on the same rhythmic pattern. Keeping something the same and changing something else is a good way to keep your music flowing without sounding schizo (which mine is guilty of doing).

Re: Dubstep patterns?

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:29 am
by Dub_Cult
hutyluty wrote:
Dub_Cult wrote:
Eat Bass wrote:try taking a song that you know is 140bpm and put it in ableton. then make a few bass lines and put them in the same positions as the bass lines in the song you have loaded into ableton. that will give you an idea of the patterns some pros are using.
How anal are most of you about Dubstep being 140 bpm? I've heard plenty of stuff by legit Dubstep producers that was closer to 120.
like what?
Ha!
I anticipated that.
Plenty.

Re: Dubstep patterns?

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 6:24 am
by wub
Dub_Cult wrote:
hutyluty wrote:
Dub_Cult wrote:
Eat Bass wrote:try taking a song that you know is 140bpm and put it in ableton. then make a few bass lines and put them in the same positions as the bass lines in the song you have loaded into ableton. that will give you an idea of the patterns some pros are using.
How anal are most of you about Dubstep being 140 bpm? I've heard plenty of stuff by legit Dubstep producers that was closer to 120.
like what?
Ha!
I anticipated that.
Plenty.

Can you give some examples of tunes that are Dubstep at 120bpm? Be interested to hear some :)

Re: Dubstep patterns?

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:44 am
by phrex
sorry. you lost this time wub...


around 125bpm

Re: Dubstep patterns?

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:49 am
by wub
How is hearing new music 'losing'?

Re: Dubstep patterns?

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:57 am
by phrex
you win :)

Re: Dubstep patterns?

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:06 pm
by Dub_Cult
wub wrote:
Dub_Cult wrote:
hutyluty wrote:
Dub_Cult wrote:
Eat Bass wrote:try taking a song that you know is 140bpm and put it in ableton. then make a few bass lines and put them in the same positions as the bass lines in the song you have loaded into ableton. that will give you an idea of the patterns some pros are using.
How anal are most of you about Dubstep being 140 bpm? I've heard plenty of stuff by legit Dubstep producers that was closer to 120.
like what?
Ha!
I anticipated that.
Plenty.

Can you give some examples of tunes that are Dubstep at 120bpm? Be interested to hear some :)
Yeah. I'll go drop the tracks I'm thinking of into Abelton and see exactly what the BPM is on them. Def some Bassnectar and although a lot of peope don't consider it true dubstep, The Glitch Mob.

I know keeping things at 140 makes things easy for dj's but being able to actually mix is what separates the boys from the men. Or women.

Re: Dubstep patterns?

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:28 pm
by hutyluty
vulvavibration wrote:sorry. you lost this time wub...


around 125bpm
but... everyone knows this is post-future nustep? :roll: