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Need some advice on new studio setup please!

Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:30 pm
by bigdaveo11
Hey everyone!

Introduction...
I apologize in advance if this is the wrong section of the forum for posting a thread relating to studio construction/design. I would greatly appreciate any advice/suggestions within this thread or direction towards another site/forum to post this type of question. Anyway here we go...

A little background...
I have done a good amount of research online and I am currently reading "Home Recording Studio Build it Like the Pros - Rod Gervais," "Acoustic Design for the Home Studio - Mitch Gallagher" and "Master Handbook of Acousics - Everest." I realize this might be "overkill" but I am trying to educate myself to the fullest extent before investing in this setup which shall be permanent for quite some time. I have only been producing house/progressive for about 1yr and I am finally settled in a new place.

Budget...
This one is tricky for me. I have yet to gather an estimate of all the costs because I am not exactly sure of all my acoustic purchases/treatment at this time (obviously wall padding/bass traps). I am trying to minimize costs but I am willing to spend what is necessary for a proper and permanent setup. For a start I have at least 2,000 to spend right now.

Producing Setup...
1. Macbook Pro
2. M-audio Oxygen 29 keyboard
3. 26inch Vizio TV monitor
4. 2 - 19inch LG monitors
5. 2 dell inspiron laptops
6. 2 M-Audio BX8 Monitors
7. 2 speaker stands (No additional foam padding just a thin layer that came with the stands)
8. I currently have no acoustic treatment in place

Room Specifications...
Attached to the post is a sketch of the dimensions as well as photographs of the room
The room is fairly large
Height = 91in (2.3m) - 98.5in (2.5m)
Length = 153in (3.89m)
Width = 206in (5.23m)

Considerations...(I would appreciate advice on any of these topics).
1. I know monitor placement is essential and should be addressed first including the spacing in the room as well as the equilateral triangle spacing between the monitor and your listening positions. In room there is a small outcove area in front of the window where the wall extends indepth about an inch. You can see what I mean in the drawing. Not sure how to consider this spot with regards to monitor placement
2. Large wood closet built into wall on one side of the room. Not sure how to address/treat this since the rest of the room is dry wall.
3. Carpet floors.
4. Octagon shaped elevated ceiling portion in the center of the room, about 7.5inches above the height of the rest of the ceiling (again refer to sketch)
5. This room would be a dedicated studio but also might double as my bedroom. I have a small twin bed and a dresser. I was wondering what complications would arise by placing these in the room as well. I have the option to sleep in another room if complications arise from other objects such as these
6. The room is not a perfect rectangle/square due to the outcove in front of the window as discussed in #1 as well as the small area upon entering through the door (refer to sketch)
7. Any info on regarding room setup vs type of genre produced (ex: heavy bass in house/dub vs mixing a country track). As stated earlier I am mixing house/progressive house.

Attachments... (see below - I apologize for the mess in the room haha)
1. Sketch drawing of the room and its dimensions
2. actual photographs

Conclusion...
Sorry I wrote this like an essay and I know it is a good amount of information. I will continue to do my research and answer my own questions however I would love to see some personal opinions/advice from members who have more experience in this field than me (which is barely any haha). I really appreciate your time and thoughtfulness, as I said earlier ANY suggestions will be extremely helpful! Thanks in advance!!!

PS: Please let me know if there is anything I need to add/edit to this thread to make the information more helpful. I spent some time putting this together and I am attempting to collect as much research/opinions as possible before making my purchases. Hopefully I covered most everything but I know that is probably not the case!

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Re: Need some advice on new studio setup please!

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:24 pm
by ksonic
Get these
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/K240S
Or something similar

Re: Need some advice on new studio setup please!

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:36 pm
by bigdaveo11
haha I have exactly those headphones. love them. I just have the space, time and a little extra money saved up to construct a studio. I am moving out of my apartment and into a house for quite some time so I figured I would get started on construction a permanent studio setup and see what people's suggestions are!

Re: Need some advice on new studio setup please!

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:43 pm
by KoenDercksen
In a room with that size I'd definately recommend acoustic treatment or you will have sound bouncing all over the place, especially if you don't put anything else than your current rig in it.

Also, a couch. :P

Re: Need some advice on new studio setup please!

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:16 pm
by lloydy
I contacted 2 acoustic treatment company's who i sent a plan and pics of my room too.They both got back to me with where the problem areas were going to be,how much treatment i would need and how i should set my room up.
I cannot recommend gik acoustic enough,they are a very helpful and will sort you out better than this forum.
Also Realtraps.com has a very large amount of info on the subject,videos on how to search you room for peaks and nulls if you wanted to get all geeky and do it yourself.
It is a subject i'm interested in but that is what gik and other company's are there for so i would just contact them.
Have fun and nice room by the way.

Re: Need some advice on new studio setup please!

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:53 pm
by FrostByte
My only suggestion, DON'T BUY THOSE M-AUDIO MONITORS!

Re: Need some advice on new studio setup please!

Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 5:35 pm
by bigdaveo11
Thanks guys.

I have been recommended GIK as well, sent in an online app form to them as well as auralex acoustics. Determining whether I want to go with acoustic foam treatment or fiberglass material for the panels instead. Definitely going with the couch! Heard that is great for helping to absorb some low end.

Real traps was great. Currently researching some room mode analysis software and debating about purchasing a Behringer ECM 8000 to conduct some before, during and after tests so I can see the improvements made in the room and analyze what needs to be added/moved/changed.

In regards to the M-Audios my buddy purchased them on sale about a year ago. I have been using my KRK 5s since I am at school but now we are moving in together and we were going to use the 8s just because the 5s feel underpowered in that size room. However I have heard others mention bad things about the 8s as well (yes we didnt do enough research at the time of purchase back when). Most of the bad reviews I read were due to the speakers crapping out and not working/crackling. We have not noticed any of this so far but then again we have not used them very much at all (which is about to change with the new studio). Anyway I am hoping the sound isn't terrible and we can make them work for awhile before upgrading...any further advice regarding this would be much appreciated as well.

Thanks again, enjoy hearing others opinions and thoughts on the matter.