Hey do people get their basses doing so many different things? i'm wondering if its the same bass patches, spanned out over 4 or 5 different channels...and each channel has the bass doing something different? I've tried this but it sounds a little choppy.
Re: how do people make their bass do so many things?
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:34 am
by wormcode
The bass is pretty consistent. You mean the synths?
It's just resampling. Yeah, sometimes the same patch, but usually a few sampled (bounced) out as audio, and then each with different processing applied, and then painted/blended back in sequences. Send them all to a bus and effect them together again to get them to sound more consistent. Compression works well.
Re: how do people make their bass do so many things?
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 3:11 pm
by Climax
chaotix wrote:Hey do people get their basses doing so many different things? i'm wondering if its the same bass patches, spanned out over 4 or 5 different channels...and each channel has the bass doing something different? I've tried this but it sounds a little choppy.
yeah theres a few ways, but usually ill make a patch i like, then duplicate it over a few channels, and change out some things in each one, lfo rate, wavetable, filter position, certain fx, pitch ups/down, you get the idea
Re: how do people make their bass do so many things?
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:38 pm
by arisemprex
Resample my friend. I actually just like to free style on a resample track with drums behind me. Just Jam, automate as you play. Cut the parts you like, repeat. By the end of it, you should have a pretty hefty amount of sound to process.
Re: how do people make their bass do so many things?
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:52 pm
by daeMTHAFKNkim
Climax wrote:
chaotix wrote:Hey do people get their basses doing so many different things? i'm wondering if its the same bass patches, spanned out over 4 or 5 different channels...and each channel has the bass doing something different? I've tried this but it sounds a little choppy.
yeah theres a few ways, but usually ill make a patch i like, then duplicate it over a few channels, and change out some things in each one, lfo rate, wavetable, filter position, certain fx, pitch ups/down, you get the idea
There's only two patches(I'm guessing with NI Massive) that are being used at the drop. The higher pitched "wobble" that sounds like a more of a piercing sound is probably a 1 OSC with +12.00 pitch OR just played on a high note. Highpassed with some reverb and other chain effects.
The second "reesey sounding bass" is just a clean bass patch probably with massive or fm8 I'm guessing and it definitely has a phaser on it. Maybe also automating the phaser.
The two patches are pretty much playing the same notes throughout the same thing and changes up now and then/switch-off but the automation on both are EXACTLY the same. Just automate one of the patches pitchbend(if you're using ableton this is so easy) then copy the automation/paste it onto the other patchs pitchbend.
Doesn't seem that hard, just EQ out the bad frequencies to make it sound clean also.
Re: how do people make their bass do so many things?
Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 11:02 pm
by bigdaveo11
Climax wrote:
chaotix wrote:Hey do people get their basses doing so many different things? i'm wondering if its the same bass patches, spanned out over 4 or 5 different channels...and each channel has the bass doing something different? I've tried this but it sounds a little choppy.
yeah theres a few ways, but usually ill make a patch i like, then duplicate it over a few channels, and change out some things in each one, lfo rate, wavetable, filter position, certain fx, pitch ups/down, you get the idea
how do you go about EQ"ing each patch? I am guessing more than just low cutting each. Do you find a range of frequencies you like in each patch and try to get those to stand out and cut around? Curious. Thank you!
Edit: Saw the post above me in relation to EQ'ing out the bad frequencies. This meaning the ones you dont want in the sound/the ones that dont allow the sound to fit in with the rest of the patches. Do you go pretty aggressive on shelving and notching EQ's in this case?
Re: how do people make their bass do so many things?
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:29 am
by hifi
automation
Re: how do people make their bass do so many things?
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:30 am
by ehbes
chaotix wrote:Hey do people get their basses doing so many different things? i'm wondering if its the same bass patches, spanned out over 4 or 5 different channels...and each channel has the bass doing something different? I've tried this but it sounds a little choppy.
Re: how do people make their bass do so many things?
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:33 am
by Brothulhu
ehbrums1 wrote:
Same way the Egyptians built the pyramids
Ancient aliens?
Re: how do people make their bass do so many things?
Posted: Sat Apr 14, 2012 3:04 am
by Eat Bass
how do you know its not the bass making people do so many things???
Re: how do people make their bass do so many things?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 1:44 am
by Mammoth
haaa
Re: how do people make their bass do so many things?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:40 am
by joshisrad
Watch the Reso Producer Masterclass, he explains how to make every sound in that track but make them way better. It's on youtube.
You might be asking yourself, how can this be? Why would Reso, a fine and accomplished producer and musician, be explaining how to make the exact sounds in some amateur's soundcloud track in a Masterclass video?
The answer is, because the song that he explains in the Masterclass video is actually his own song, War Machine.
You'll notice that the exact same formula is copied in this soundcloud track via the OP, except it sounds like shit. Down the timing and the timbre, it is plain as day that he copied the Reso techniques for his drop in that song.
Sit through the whole Masterclass, but you can skip the first part about the drums if you want.
Re: how do people make their bass do so many things?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:00 pm
by AxeD
Isn't this just another 'automa-what?' thread?
Re: how do people make their bass do so many things?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 3:08 pm
by lloydy
Q=how do people make their bass do so many things?
A=by doing so many things to the bass patch!
Re: how do people make their bass do so many things?
Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:54 pm
by joshisrad
It'd disgusting to me how that song the OP is LITERALLY a bad attempt at Reso's War Machine.
Re: how do people make their bass do so many things?
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 11:06 am
by sunny_b_uk
no i think that song is just a reflip of this free FL demo project:
im 95% sure, sounds like the person just added a few massive patches and changed the melody a bit + added repetitive vocals then called it a day
Re: how do people make their bass do so many things?
Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 1:17 pm
by steeze
Alright mate, for that tune I just had one instance of massive loaded then bounced out different variations of a big reese I had made. From there I imported them onto separate audio tracks, with each audio track having a slightly different effects chain. Once I'd got the first 8 bars of the drop finished it was just a case of varying the waveforms and lfo rate in massive and duplicating and altering the effects chain across new audio tracks, I think by the end of it there was about 30-40 separate audio tracks. With the EQ there's a lot of mids scooped to clean things up as well as notches to take out offensive frequencies, I think theres a couple of EQs loaded on each effects chain as I was trying to keep everything relatively flat as I went along. If theres any specifics you need help with just drop us a message on soundcloud, although it's beyond me why on earth you'd want your track to sound like that...
