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Stringy Sidechained Bass Sound?

Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:37 pm
by Altron
So, I've been working on a more relaxed style song lately and there is one sound I have pretty much had in mind for the song that I've had a lot of trouble recreating. The best way I can describe the sound is by showing you a song with a similar sounding bass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6THS-VHC8sA at about 00:41 seconds in.

I've heard a lot of Gemini tunes with basses that sound this way. I also hear a lot of other artists out there doing this type of bass sound. I'm used to resampling a ton and making sounds that way, but these basses almost have a stringlike quality to them that I cannot seem to come close to getting with massive. Does anyone have any insight on getting something similar sounding to the link I posted? I looked for a thread with info in here and had a bit of trouble thinking of a decent way to describe the sound without showing a clip.

Re: Stringy Sidechained Bass Sound?

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:06 am
by mthrfnk
Tbh to me a lot of Gemini stuff just sounds like sidechained "house" synths layered over the bass - try layering a patch based on two slightly detuned PWM oscillators on your bass and mxing the two together frequency wise and don't forget to sidechain the "string" synth to a 4x4 kick.

Re: Stringy Sidechained Bass Sound?

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 6:34 am
by KoenDercksen
Yeah, try making a bass with the modern talking WT (I'm not kidding) and then layer a saw pad patch over it with chords. Also, the sidechaining should be done with a 4x4 kick or an LFO or something, sidechaining to your hearable kick and snare will go too slow.

Re: Stringy Sidechained Bass Sound?

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:34 pm
by pesky
its all about layering with gemini's drops.

Re: Stringy Sidechained Bass Sound?

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 4:26 am
by Altron
Thanks a whole lot for the help guys. I think I pretty much nailed the sound I was looking for. What I was doing wrong was trying to make a chord sound using the wavetables and detuning them by 5ths to try to get that chorded sound. Instead I just made a new patch and put chords in midi instead of a single note. Took my wavetables in massive and set 2 PWM's and detuned them a bit like someone said. Added another oscillator -12 semitones down and just picked a random waveform that sounded decent. Sent the synth through some processing and sidechained it to a ghost kick that did a 4x4 pattern. Layered a sub underneath and bam that is exactly what I pictured it to sound like. :D

If you guys wanna check it out, it is the track in my signature. Thanks again for the help, it totally got me to rethink things and achieve exactly what I was shooting for.

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Re: Stringy Sidechained Bass Sound?

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:14 am
by mthrfnk
That's really nice man, sounds really chill - arps are a nice touch too, where's the vocals from?

Re: Stringy Sidechained Bass Sound?

Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 10:15 am
by Augment
I made this bass for a tune once, never finished the tune though. What you want to do is make a patch with some detuned saws, play chords of them, layer with a dark bass (so to speak) and then I layered some strings to give it that warm, almost organic feel. :)

Re: Stringy Sidechained Bass Sound?

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:39 am
by narcissus
wow that rip is so distorted i can barely hear. sounds pretty nifty tho. reminds me a lot of some of the modern trance that comes out w/ that half eastern/half western feel. the top layer sounds squarey. somewhere in there is a low, notched sounding FM tone. sub on the bottom. probably a supersaw in there eating up some mids.

sounding pretty good there man. i could see myself making some stuff like this if i didn't always feel like putting a kick on each beat.

Re: Stringy Sidechained Bass Sound?

Posted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:45 am
by Versuz
i've gotten similar results layering a pad, saw, and a sub and then side chaining it. pretty nifty tune i personally think xilent pulled it off better :corndance: