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Sidechain EQ

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:09 pm
by OfficialDAPT
So basically what I want to have happen is every time my kick and snare hit, the EQ on the bass buss activates and chops out everything under 300. It's basically like just plain side-chaining but it doesn't duck the whole sound when the kick hits. I'm not sure how to do this in ableton without having to draw in the automation on the EQ every time there is a kick. Help?

Re: Sidechain EQ

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:14 pm
by Sonika
oh that'd be cool. Not sure if it's possible though?

Re: Sidechain EQ

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:15 pm
by deadly_habit
simple solution, draw in your automation, copy paste
otherwise you'll need to find an eq plugin with a sidechain input

Re: Sidechain EQ

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:20 pm
by OfficialDAPT
deadly habit wrote:simple solution, draw in your automation, copy paste
otherwise you'll need to find an eq plugin with a sidechain input
Yeah that's what i do now but I don't want to do that for the whole song then I'd constantly be changing the automation every time I moved around the kick/snare pattern. I don't NEED it, but a sidechain EQ or sidechain Filter would make my life easier. I also thought another way of doing this would be to frequency split and have a sidechain compressor on the low chain.

Re: Sidechain EQ

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:22 pm
by Sonika
deadly habit wrote:simple solution, draw in your automation, copy paste
otherwise you'll need to find an eq plugin with a sidechain input

those exist? :o like what?

Re: Sidechain EQ

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:27 pm
by OfficialDAPT
Sonika wrote:
deadly habit wrote:simple solution, draw in your automation, copy paste
otherwise you'll need to find an eq plugin with a sidechain input

those exist? :o like what?
Even better there should be an EQ that ducks different amounts depending on how loud the incoming sidechain channel is!!!

Re: Sidechain EQ

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:31 pm
by Sonika
OfficialDAPT wrote:
Sonika wrote:
deadly habit wrote:simple solution, draw in your automation, copy paste
otherwise you'll need to find an eq plugin with a sidechain input

those exist? :o like what?
Even better there should be an EQ that ducks different amounts depending on how loud the incoming sidechain channel is!!!

I feel like that pretty much IS sidechaining.
anyhoo, it would be cool to have one of those

Re: Sidechain EQ

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:32 pm
by OfficialDAPT
Sonika wrote:
OfficialDAPT wrote:
Sonika wrote:
deadly habit wrote:simple solution, draw in your automation, copy paste
otherwise you'll need to find an eq plugin with a sidechain input

those exist? :o like what?
Even better there should be an EQ that ducks different amounts depending on how loud the incoming sidechain channel is!!!

I feel like that pretty much IS sidechaining.
anyhoo, it would be cool to have one of those
But sidechaining affects the whole frequency spectrum I just want everything under 300hz to duck

Re: Sidechain EQ

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:34 pm
by hasezwei
dude its called a multiband compressor. check reaXcomp, it's free and regarded as one of the best multiband compressors unless you want to replicate the sound of hardware comps.

Re: Sidechain EQ

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:35 pm
by Sonika
hasezwei wrote:dude its called a multiband compressor. check reaXcomp, it's free and regarded as one of the best multiband compressors unless you want to replicate the sound of hardware comps.

oh I thought multiband compressors were something else :oops: cheers!

Re: Sidechain EQ

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:36 pm
by OfficialDAPT
Sonika wrote:
hasezwei wrote:dude its called a multiband compressor. check reaXcomp, it's free and regarded as one of the best multiband compressors unless you want to replicate the sound of hardware comps.

oh I thought multiband compressors were something else :oops: cheers!
They are something else. Does this said multiband compressor have separate sidechain options for each band?

Re: Sidechain EQ

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:42 pm
by atlascesar
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Re: Sidechain EQ

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:43 pm
by OfficialDAPT
atlascesar wrote:i am post this so i am remember at reading later. friends please no responding at this. i am thanking you and have hope you will be having such a great night
Um...?

Re: Sidechain EQ

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:48 pm
by Augment
In FL I use Fruty peak controller linked to parametric EQ 2, works like a charm.

Re: Sidechain EQ

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 5:50 pm
by OfficialDAPT
blinkesko wrote:In FL I use Fruty peak controller linked to parametric EQ 2, works like a charm.
What does Fruity peak controller do, is that a limiter?

Re: Sidechain EQ

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 6:02 pm
by Augment
OfficialDAPT wrote:
blinkesko wrote:In FL I use Fruty peak controller linked to parametric EQ 2, works like a charm.
What does Fruity peak controller do, is that a limiter?
No, it basically just send a signals to whatever you have linked it with, so each time my kick/snare hits, it sends a signal to the EQ, and the eq ducks at whatever freq I've set it to.

Re: Sidechain EQ

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 6:28 pm
by KoenDercksen
I always use Reaper's routing options for this kind of thing, don't know if it's possible in another DAW though...

In Reaper you can link the audio of channel 3/4 (which you'd send your kick or whatever to) to whatever parameter you wish in the parameter modulation options.

Re: Sidechain EQ

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 6:39 pm
by skanky beats
put the threshold to -60db and the ratio to 20:1

Re: Sidechain EQ

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 6:43 pm
by Immerse
just split the frequencies with a multiband a put the sidechain compressor only on the frequencies you want to duck.

Re: Sidechain EQ

Posted: Thu May 03, 2012 6:53 pm
by Discern
If you use Ableton the compressor on there has EQ for sidechain with different filter types and you can pick what freq you want it to duck is this not the same?