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as they smash my face
I'm working out their problem

book I'm reading...

is talking about historical religious philsophy...

and they have the trinity worked out as this....

the son - selflessness - a life of works - a persons mind is spent thinking of ways to improve lives....
the holy spirit - when a person receives the supernatural - dissolution into a collective consciousness...

and it says that both states are incomplete and misguided without knowing the father..

but - the father - in my understanding of the text - can be equatted to suicide
it's a sort of oblivious state - like an escape - a sort of freedom from all things...

which confuses me because it's sort of the opposite of the other two..
Is this just old fashioned patriarchial manipulation?

Compassion from a distance is they way I sometimes choose.

you saying - draw a circle in the dirt and try to make everything inside right
and just aggressively push everything else out...

That's exactly what the book is about - fortified medieval walls

medieval

Walls can be knocked down.

No.

I am saying that I probably will forgive you but that doesn't mean that I want to be in the same room as you.

oh sledgehammer...

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I see it as maybe having internalized that we are one,
with different minds to enable discourse & appreciation,
to the extent that I can immediately see your point of view
whether rational, grubby, altruistic or hedonistic.

but decision-making becomes problematic
as I lose the ability to prioritize criteria for judgements
about what is best for my own being
& so I drift in the white noise of our every motivation.

Actions determined by impulse and ease.
Discrimination of good & bad thru momentary reaction
and the filtering remnants of life's conditioning.

Awaiting its emergence from the static of shred thoughts:

the rising centripetal spire

of a voice

that issues from my throat
that speaks my mind

regarding all other

I bless them as they mash my face into the dirt.

can you not be empathetic to them while still defending yourself?

"I'm sorry it has come to this, maybe we can talk once this is sorted..."

I don't want your blessing - I want you to change.

Leebeus Woods said - destruction of infrastructure is a non-symbolic way to irrefutably impliment a change.

Just strolling around with mad swagger - when the son of god stabbed my fuzzy labradoodle with a dagger.

Tzar Bomba

sd5 wrote:I see it as maybe having internalized that we are one,
with different minds to enable discourse & appreciation,
to the extent that I can immediately see your point of view
whether rational, grubby, altruistic or hedonistic.

but decision-making becomes problematic
as I lose the ability to prioritize criteria for judgements
about what is best for my own being
& so I drift in the white noise of our every motivation.

Actions determined by impulse and ease.
Discrimination of good & bad thru momentary reaction
and the filtering remnants of life's conditioning.

As does forming opinions that you can't find fault with, which when the reasons for that are pursued ultimately leads to your sense of self coming under attack. Maybe that's just me

couple of people on this forum who smoke waaaay waaay too much green.

...style wars.

All of it.

Leave Blank wrote:couple of people on this forum who smoke waaaay waaay too much green.

I'd say not enough.

What would Jesus say? Turn the other cheek? Speak quietly and carry a big stick?

I see it as-
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When words fail, then it is time to chose another way.

Ultimately, you must forget about technique. The further you progress, the fewer teachings there are. The Great Path is really No Path.