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Hi there,
I have never asked for help with sounds before as i normally make my own but i have fell in love with the 1st growl from knife partys 'Crush on you' Remix.

I have made a few growls in fm8 and massive before but i just cant seem to make the knife party growl.

i would really appreciate it if you could help me, i will return the favour



The sound im looking for is the growl at 0.56 - 0.57 & 0.59


could someone please help me

Thanks in advance

Hey, I'm no expert at this but I have found that the best approach at imitation is to just start out by aiming to create the fundamental aspects of the sound ie: start out by setting up your oscs/operators in whatever configuration you think will achieve the sort of "wwoaahh" formation to the sound, then once you have that, mess with the waveforms of each osc/operator until you can get it to have as close as possible of a sonic embodiment/grit, then from there use whatever effects to further sculpt and tweak the sound to taste, be it something else you find you like or the same as the this.

This sounds to me like you could just take FM8, throw Operator 1 to .500 ratio, then take another Operator, set it to somewhere in between .500 to 1.000 ratio, then modulate Operator 1 with it, then mess around with either using Sine, Triangle, Sqaure (I'm not sure about you but I find that for these more complex sounds with lots of modulation, if you start with simpler waveforms you can push it through heavier effects processing without it getting messy/full of excessive white noise) and then possibly try mapping the ratio of Operator 2 to whatever macro knob you use to control the Operator 2 -> Operator 1 modulation so that the ratio changes as the level of modulation does, makes it have more movement.

Basically I could ramble on and on, but I think if you break the sound down into steps and just repeatedly try to get each one as close as possible you will be successful.

Cheers, Unknown Entities

good post

you can better do it in massive, as that's how they did it :3

lol why is the title thingy at the top of my comment black?

i would try with modern talking, try to get a similar movement in the oscilator position and distort and maybe bandpass/bandreject, OR try to make a similar movement automating notch filters from one vowel point to another. Just a suggestion.

siperdellyeer wrote:you can better do it in massive, as that's how they did it :3

I can pretty much guarantee it's an FM8 sound.

You can get similar sort of sounds from both FM8 and Massive, in Massive I think you can use the Phase modulation in combination with some filter modulation to get it, as oppose to frequency modulation in FM8. I prefer doing this kind of sound with FM8 though as you have more control over the nuances of what's going on. I also find that using vowel filters on the sound as a whole kind of weakens it, instead if you split the frequencies and only use the vowel filter on like the mids/upper mids but leave the lower end to perhaps some fattening distortion etc it comes through with more power yet still has that formant movement to it. You don't need any vowel filtering at all in FM8 to get the "yoy" sound too.

Better yet, build a "YoY' patch in FM8, split the frequencies, run it through vowel filtering and a moving EQ notch(es). Sounds pretty cool!

siperdellyeer wrote:you can better do it in massive, as that's how they did it :3

Thats so 2011. We're all about FM8 now.

thanks so much for the replies. ill give it a go using unknown entities advice

I read a twitter post by Rob from KP a few days ago, he mentioned that some basses/growls in their new Bonfire tune were made in Sylenth - so I wouldn't restrict yourself to just Massive/FM8. Also to the person who suggested using Modern Talking, they've said multiple times in the past that they hate the now "generic" dubstep sounds that wavetable produces, so never use it - hence the name of their first EP