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Question About NI Massive

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:06 pm
by OfficialDAPT
Is the dimensional expander in Massive mono-safe? What I mean is that if a song is switched to mono, will a massive patch with dimensional expander on it still sound good?

Re: Question About NI Massive

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:10 pm
by nowaysj
Switch your song to mono, and you tell us.

Re: Question About NI Massive

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:11 pm
by OfficialDAPT
nowaysj wrote:Switch your song to mono, and you tell us.
I have and I can't tell if it's losing volume or that's just how mono sounds. A non-sarcastic answer would be nice once in awhile though...

Re: Question About NI Massive

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:21 pm
by nowaysj
That wasn't sarcasm. You need to judge for yourself. They're your tracks, you have to be the decider.

Re: Question About NI Massive

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:25 pm
by OfficialDAPT
nowaysj wrote:That wasn't sarcasm. You need to judge for yourself. They're your tracks, you have to be the decider.
It was sarcastic because you aren't answering my question. Why would I post this if I haven't tried it myself? I'm looking for insight of others not someone telling me to do what I've already done.

Re: Question About NI Massive

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:30 pm
by nowaysj
Tell you what, every time you want to know if something sounds good, like you did in your question there, hit me up, I'll tell you what is good and what is bad, I'll be the decider.

Re: Question About NI Massive

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:32 pm
by OfficialDAPT
nowaysj wrote:Tell you what, every time you want to know if something sounds good, like you did in your question there, hit me up, I'll tell you what is good and what is bad, I'll be the decider.
Ok then, does the dimensional expander sound good in mono?

Re: Question About NI Massive

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:33 pm
by nowaysj
Yep

Re: Question About NI Massive

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:36 pm
by OfficialDAPT
nowaysj wrote:Yep
Are you just saying that or did you try it?

Re: Question About NI Massive

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:38 pm
by JFK
OfficialDAPT wrote:Is the dimensional expander in Massive mono-safe? What I mean is that if a song is switched to mono, will a massive patch with dimensional expander on it still sound good?
Its a stereo effect. So if you put it on an element (like a low/mid bassline) that you will later switch to mono then it will lose some of its presence and, obviously, its width. How much it looses depends entirely on what sound you are using it on, what level of wet/dry you have on the dimension expander itself and how high in the mix the particular element is.

In all honesty though, and I know its not what you want to hear, Noways is correct. It really comes down to if you like the way it sounds or not as the phrase "will it sound good?" is entirely subjective.

Re: Question About NI Massive

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:40 pm
by wub
JFK wrote:It really comes down to if you like the way it sounds or not as the phrase "will it sound good?" is entirely subjective.
:z:

Re: Question About NI Massive

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:41 pm
by OfficialDAPT
JFK wrote:
OfficialDAPT wrote:Is the dimensional expander in Massive mono-safe? What I mean is that if a song is switched to mono, will a massive patch with dimensional expander on it still sound good?
Its a stereo effect. So if you put it on an element (like a low/mid bassline) that you will later switch to mono then it will lose some of its presence and, obviously, its width. How much it looses depends entirely on what sound you are using it on, what level of wet/dry you have on the dimension expander itself and how high in the mix the particular element is.

In all honesty though, and I know its not what you want to hear, Noways is correct. It really comes down to if you like the way it sounds or not as the phrase "will it sound good?" is entirely subjective.
Thanks for a real answer.

Re: Question About NI Massive

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:46 pm
by Coolschmid
So does it sound good on your track or not?

Re: Question About NI Massive

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:48 pm
by nowaysj
OfficialDAPT wrote:
nowaysj wrote:Yep
Are you just saying that or did you try it?
Don't trouble your pretty little head, just do what I say.

Re: Question About NI Massive

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:48 pm
by OfficialDAPT
nowaysj wrote:
OfficialDAPT wrote:
nowaysj wrote:Yep
Are you just saying that or did you try it?
Don't trouble your pretty little head, just do what I say.
Nah I'll just ignore your advice

Re: Question About NI Massive

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:50 pm
by OfficialDAPT
Coolschmid wrote:So does it sound good on your track or not?
It sounds OK... All the stereo width is gone of course so the whole track sounds a little flat to me. Telling if the volume relative to everything else is the same in stereo and mono is the part I'm having trouble with.

Re: Question About NI Massive

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:52 pm
by nowaysj
OfficialDAPT wrote:
nowaysj wrote:
OfficialDAPT wrote:
nowaysj wrote:Yep
Are you just saying that or did you try it?
Don't trouble your pretty little head, just do what I say.
Nah I'll just ignore your advice
There you go, now you're getting it.

Re: Question About NI Massive

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:55 pm
by OfficialDAPT
nowaysj wrote:
OfficialDAPT wrote:
nowaysj wrote:
OfficialDAPT wrote:
nowaysj wrote:Yep
Are you just saying that or did you try it?
Don't trouble your pretty little head, just do what I say.
Nah I'll just ignore your advice
There you go, now you're getting it.
It would be nice if you just didn't post in the first place though.

Re: Question About NI Massive

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:55 pm
by JFK
OfficialDAPT wrote:
Coolschmid wrote:So does it sound good on your track or not?
It sounds OK... All the stereo width is gone of course so the whole track sounds a little flat to me. Telling if the volume relative to everything else is the same in stereo and mono is the part I'm having trouble with.
Did you try any of Massives mono fx?

Re: Question About NI Massive

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:58 pm
by OfficialDAPT
JFK wrote:
OfficialDAPT wrote:
Coolschmid wrote:So does it sound good on your track or not?
It sounds OK... All the stereo width is gone of course so the whole track sounds a little flat to me. Telling if the volume relative to everything else is the same in stereo and mono is the part I'm having trouble with.
Did you try any of Massives mono fx?
Did I try them for what?