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Posted: **Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:29 am**

Compare OSMUK 018 (Killawatt) with 019 (Kryptic Minds on a techno tip). The problems with 'deep' and 'dark' dubstep are exposed immediately. Annoying kicks, no dynamics, an uninspired vocal sample and all in all stale tracks that don't seem to go anywhere, vs. deep and dark 4x4 beats (b-side) with heavy low ends and even a grimey undertone in some of the fx. It becomes all so obvious.

By the way, this is much better than KM's last foray into more techno-styled beats. A process of trial and error pays off. Osiris should move in this direction.

Posted: **Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:58 am**

Apples n oranges innit!

Posted: **Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:23 pm**

What a weird post!

Posted: **Thu Jun 28, 2012 6:56 pm**

abso no sense

Posted: **Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:40 pm**

not my fault Killawatt and in his wake, a host of others produce boring, done to death music you lot actually like. It's was as much a problem for dubstep as your datsiks and Excisions. All sound alike. Don't go bringing sense into this (as your only argument at that). I see people who liked that hideous Kromestar track from a while posting here, now that makes sense to me.

Truth transcends taste. Best KM track since one of us. Hope they continue in this way and say that awful dungeon farewell for once and for all, it's been around long enough and didn't do dubstep any favours.

Posted: **Thu Jun 28, 2012 7:44 pm**

Oh, and no need to take this personal killawatt, It's just my taste but I like to present it in an unusual style. I have found it gets the argument a cross.

Posted: **Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:19 pm**

plenty of quality halfstep still being made. if you can't hear it,

Posted: **Fri Jun 29, 2012 8:57 am**

ghosttown wrote:What a weird post!

lol. Been workin way too many hrs this wk, haha! All i was tryin to say was some people are goin to like these tunes n some people obviously arent. No disrespect to anyone, if we all liked the same stuff this world would be a very boring place... For the record, I like both releases!

Posted: **Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:31 am**

I thought both were equally boring

Posted: **Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:11 am**

cakeplz wrote:plenty of quality halfstep still being made. if you can't hear it,

Are you talking about the dungeon sound or something different because I need some fresh half step. The dungeon sound and these rollers are starting to become so stale and samey. It reminds of Kode9 's RBMA lecture when he said he stopped buying dnb when he realised he was buying the same records.

Posted: **Fri Jun 29, 2012 12:56 pm**

cakeplz wrote:abso no sense

Posted: **Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:47 pm**

^^ weakener! Broaden your mind. Read dem books.

Posted: **Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:03 pm**

seriously what's your point? you don't like that kind of direction people like killawatt are taking with their tunes, fine! but why the comparison with that KM techno bit? what are you trying to say? that techno is the new dubstep? that KM should focus on that type of tunes in the future? why don't you listen to techno, if that's what you're looking for? i like 'breach', but just because it might be the first tune of that kind by KM, it doesn't mean it's anything revolutionary or special.

Posted: **Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:39 am**

baddis98 wrote:seriously what's your point? you don't like that kind of direction people like killawatt are taking with their tunes, fine! but why the comparison with that KM techno bit? what are you trying to say? that techno is the new dubstep? that KM should focus on that type of tunes in the future? why don't you listen to techno, if that's what you're looking for? i like 'breach', but just because it might be the first tune of that kind by KM, it doesn't mean it's anything revolutionary or special.

Agreed.

Also, I'm right there with you to an extent, I'm sick of hearing the same shit as well. However, I don't think Killawatt was necessarily the best example. Have you listened to the free EP he just gave away? It's by no means an EP which consists of "just some more dungeon tunes." His sound is so distinct, and so energetic. Listen to that tune "Locked In" on a system, the bass weight is incredible. On top of that, unlike a lot of dungeon producers, Killawatt actually has a lot of variations in his tunes, it's not the same loop for 6 minutes straight, there are lots of transitions and changes within the tunes, and that's something I appreciate immensely. I've always supported Killawatt and I always will.

Posted: **Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:43 am**

Cornbreadddd wrote:
baddis98 wrote:seriously what's your point? you don't like that kind of direction people like killawatt are taking with their tunes, fine! but why the comparison with that KM techno bit? what are you trying to say? that techno is the new dubstep? that KM should focus on that type of tunes in the future? why don't you listen to techno, if that's what you're looking for? i like 'breach', but just because it might be the first tune of that kind by KM, it doesn't mean it's anything revolutionary or special.
Agreed.

Also, I'm right there with you to an extent, I'm sick of hearing the same shit as well. However, I don't think Killawatt was necessarily the best example. Have you listened to the free EP he just gave away? It's by no means an EP which consists of "just some more dungeon tunes." His sound is so distinct, and so energetic. Listen to that tune "Locked In" on a system, the bass weight is incredible. On top of that, unlike a lot of dungeon producers, Killawatt actually has a lot of variations in his tunes, it's not the same loop for 6 minutes straight, there are lots of transitions and changes within the tunes, and that's something I appreciate immensely. I've always supported Killawatt and I always will.

Always for the last 6 months you've been listening to dubstep? lol. And now you're talking about tunes that are good on a system when you usually rag on "system tunes"... Give me a break.

Posted: **Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:05 am**

dsprainman wrote:
Cornbreadddd wrote:
baddis98 wrote:seriously what's your point? you don't like that kind of direction people like killawatt are taking with their tunes, fine! but why the comparison with that KM techno bit? what are you trying to say? that techno is the new dubstep? that KM should focus on that type of tunes in the future? why don't you listen to techno, if that's what you're looking for? i like 'breach', but just because it might be the first tune of that kind by KM, it doesn't mean it's anything revolutionary or special.
Agreed.

Also, I'm right there with you to an extent, I'm sick of hearing the same shit as well. However, I don't think Killawatt was necessarily the best example. Have you listened to the free EP he just gave away? It's by no means an EP which consists of "just some more dungeon tunes." His sound is so distinct, and so energetic. Listen to that tune "Locked In" on a system, the bass weight is incredible. On top of that, unlike a lot of dungeon producers, Killawatt actually has a lot of variations in his tunes, it's not the same loop for 6 minutes straight, there are lots of transitions and changes within the tunes, and that's something I appreciate immensely. I've always supported Killawatt and I always will.
Always for the last 6 months you've been listening to dubstep? lol. And now you're talking about tunes that are good on a system when you usually rag on "system tunes"... Give me a break.

Are you serious............

I always rag on tunes that only sound good on a huge system, these tunes aren't that. They sound amazing on the system that I have in my car or even earbuds. It's the tunes that people say only sound good on a thousand dollar rig that I have a problem with, but thanks for your concern.

Again, the issue at hand is not how long I've been listening to dubstep, but instead how long I've been listening to Killawatt, because after-all, that's specifically who I was mentioning in this case. Perhaps you should read peoples statements more thoroughly before making such brash and mindless comments. Yes, I have been listening to Killawatt since before he put out his first Wheel-N-Deal EP, so I believe I can say that I have "always" liked Killawatt.

I have no idea why you feel the necessity to be a dick when I have said nothing that concerns you,and on top of that, I'm simply stating my appreciation for an artist, yet you manage to find something wrong with that, incredible. People like you are responsible for the ubiquitous negativity in this community and on this forum. I know, I know, I was at one point a very obnoxious mongrel on this forum but since then, I've tried to be a little bit more respectful on this board. It makes no sense for everyone to be so negative, including myself, when we're all here and we all share a common interest, you would think that everyone would get along much better, but it's unnecessary and condescending comments such as this that perpetuate this omnipresent negativity. It's not the first time either, you always have something nasty to say about every comment I make, why? Is this some sort of insecurity of yours?

Posted: **Sat Jun 30, 2012 8:59 am**

So what are we supposed to take away from this thread? That techno is awesome and killawatt sucks? Fucking joke.

Posted: **Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:05 pm**

subearache wrote:So what are we supposed to take away from this thread? That techno is awesome and killawatt sucks? Fucking joke.

Yes, except for the joke part.

Posted: **Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:12 pm**

And I never said it was revolutionary or great for that matter. OSMUK 019 at least sounds like it is going places again, a forebode of more interesting stuff to come. Whereas 018 is the sound of staleness.

Posted: **Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:38 pm**

Killawatt's one of sickest new producers around. End of.

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