basic mixdown gear (currently reading moneyshot)
Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:50 am
BIG EDIT: Been reading through the moneyshot posts; macc's posts on gain structure, leaving enough headroom by putting the drums at aruond -12 to -10db, etc makes a lot of sense. You don't want frequencies clashing and cancelling eachother out. I'm emberassed to say that I've been leaving my mixer track channels at the default in FL for everything I've been making. I've just been working on making my tracks sound the way I want, I'm just now getting to the translating to other systems, mixing and gain structure, decibels and whatnot. Moneyshot thread is helping a fuckton. I'm gonna try relying less on GEAR and more at frequency spectrum analyzers, decibel meters(iphone app any good? LOL), and trying to get sounds that compliment eachother without moshing together.
Still: What do you guys mostly make/listen to tracks on when you're in your studio/room/whatever. I will be referencing as many different systems as I can, sucks I don't have access to any PA's though as I want to be producing bangers.
Anyway, since we're not talking about genelecs and fancy hardware, what do most of you guys use when you're doing a rough mixdown of a track?
I assume decent monitors are still a must, but I've been getting mixed answers everywhere. Some people say at least Yamaha HS50's for the mids and highs and a decent pair of cans (at least ath-m50s) to get at least some accuracy on the lower frequencies. It's hard to leave room at certain frequencies cause I'm making beats on a 5 speaker logitech system I got for x-mas and some Sony MDR-V6's that are super bass heavy and make eveyrthing sound good.... to me, sounds like shit to people. I've literally heard my trance chords disappear because the difference in the speakers were SO hugely different than my super bass heavy setup.
Other people say you can't use cans at all for mixing/mastering... but I'm all about getting the job done for the least money.
My speakers have a lot of shit you can adjust and they are not at all accurate, I'm thinking I'll get my ideas out and make the track on my logitech speakers first since it's easy on the ears and I can reference roughly vs the music I usually listen to. Noisia, cenob1t3, excision, 2am cant think of many others. then use the HS50's to bring down the peaks of the mids and highs after the track is completely done.
Can I get away with just using a decent flat pair of cans and my car stereo (corolla haha.)
I hear the HS50's are fucking accurate for the price range though, so you can hear all the shit parts and fix em up. Even car stereos run compressors, etc that would effect how much compression I use in my mixer tracks, which doesnt accurately represent the sound.... FUCK
Don't want to spend if I don't have to but since my tracks translate like shit I need something better than my Sony MDR-V6 cans and Logitech system, they are both bass heavy and I feel like I have no reference whatsoever.
Still: What do you guys mostly make/listen to tracks on when you're in your studio/room/whatever. I will be referencing as many different systems as I can, sucks I don't have access to any PA's though as I want to be producing bangers.
Anyway, since we're not talking about genelecs and fancy hardware, what do most of you guys use when you're doing a rough mixdown of a track?
I assume decent monitors are still a must, but I've been getting mixed answers everywhere. Some people say at least Yamaha HS50's for the mids and highs and a decent pair of cans (at least ath-m50s) to get at least some accuracy on the lower frequencies. It's hard to leave room at certain frequencies cause I'm making beats on a 5 speaker logitech system I got for x-mas and some Sony MDR-V6's that are super bass heavy and make eveyrthing sound good.... to me, sounds like shit to people. I've literally heard my trance chords disappear because the difference in the speakers were SO hugely different than my super bass heavy setup.
Other people say you can't use cans at all for mixing/mastering... but I'm all about getting the job done for the least money.
My speakers have a lot of shit you can adjust and they are not at all accurate, I'm thinking I'll get my ideas out and make the track on my logitech speakers first since it's easy on the ears and I can reference roughly vs the music I usually listen to. Noisia, cenob1t3, excision, 2am cant think of many others. then use the HS50's to bring down the peaks of the mids and highs after the track is completely done.
Can I get away with just using a decent flat pair of cans and my car stereo (corolla haha.)
I hear the HS50's are fucking accurate for the price range though, so you can hear all the shit parts and fix em up. Even car stereos run compressors, etc that would effect how much compression I use in my mixer tracks, which doesnt accurately represent the sound.... FUCK
Don't want to spend if I don't have to but since my tracks translate like shit I need something better than my Sony MDR-V6 cans and Logitech system, they are both bass heavy and I feel like I have no reference whatsoever.