I have ableton, kontakt, nexus, and i cannot figure out how people like skrillex get such a fat sounding piano. It must be the processing because i know skrillex uses abletons built in piano.
Re: How do you make a fat sounding piano?
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:41 am
by ehbes
Same way you would make anything else seem bigger..
Re: How do you make a fat sounding piano?
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:05 am
by chillpenguin
Oh ok thanks i think that will work!
Re: How do you make a fat sounding piano?
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:02 am
by Aufnahmewindwuschel
give him a wunderbar or sth should make him quiet for a while
Re: How do you make a fat sounding piano?
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:30 pm
by deadly_habit
place overhead mic, place mic close to opening, repeat ad nausea for hours till it sounds good, pray you don't have phasing issues, profit
Re: How do you make a fat sounding piano?
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:36 pm
by Today
use one of kontakt's two stock grand pianos which are terrific... compress?
Re: How do you make a fat sounding piano?
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:41 pm
by deadly_habit
i always found pianoteq better sounding than the pianos in kontakt
i forget what the original ni piano plug was, but it's a shame they stopped updating it
Re: How do you make a fat sounding piano?
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 2:49 pm
by Attila
Can't stand kontakts pianos now, heard their Akoustik version was good though. Alicia's keys is fine too, but for sound and performance I go for The Grand by Steinberg. With minor tweaking I can get it sounding nice and natural...probably would never use it in a track though, too musical. Just compress the hell out of a shitty piano.
Re: How do you make a fat sounding piano?
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:06 pm
by JBE
Skrillex uses pianos?
Re: How do you make a fat sounding piano?
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:16 pm
by bassinine
high pass it, boost around 300hz, add some long verb.
Re: How do you make a fat sounding piano?
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 6:24 pm
by chillpenguin
Yeah skrillex uses abletons built in piano. I read about it in some interview. The tracks i can think of are ruffneck full flex and first of the year.
Yeah i think the key is compressing the shit out of it.
Re: How do you make a fat sounding piano?
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:15 pm
by MassAphekt
bassinine wrote:high pass it, boost around 300hz, add some long verb.
there's no specific frequency spot to boost to make it sound better lol, it depends on what scales and octave.
add some compression, tiny bit of chorus or even minimal sample delay, very gentle cut in the low mid area, even of course a tad of reverb and mid/side equing to create a wider stereo image
Re: How do you make a fat sounding piano?
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:33 pm
by lightshapers
bust out a korg m1 and get all old skool with it
that new NI piano sounds awesome
Re: How do you make a fat sounding piano?
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:49 pm
by deadly_habit
korg has always had some of the best piano sounds, the cheap casio keyboards are great too
Re: How do you make a fat sounding piano?
Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:14 pm
by bassinine
MassAphekt wrote:
bassinine wrote:high pass it, boost around 300hz, add some long verb.
there's no specific frequency spot to boost to make it sound better lol, it depends on what scales and octave.
add some compression, tiny bit of chorus or even minimal sample delay, very gentle cut in the low mid area, even of course a tad of reverb and mid/side equing to create a wider stereo image
no kidding. i don't feel the need to specify every single time i give someone advice: there's no RIGHT way, but this should get you on the right track...
to your advice: that's not how you make it sound bigger, the low midrange is really what makes a piano sound bigger. which is around 300hz... ever heard a grand piano before? and chorus on piano sounds is cheesy, in my opinion. and there's really no point in advising to use a compressor, because it ALSO depends on the samples/ocatave/everything else.
Re: How do you make a fat sounding piano?
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:29 am
by jrisreal
I listened to the piano in those skrillex tunes and the pianos do not sound fat at all. The "fatness" is coming from something else...the pianos sound like a dry piano vst...not even realistic.
Re: How do you make a fat sounding piano?
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 9:37 am
by Augment
jrisreal wrote:I listened to the piano in those skrillex tunes and the pianos do not sound fat at all. The "fatness" is coming from something else...the pianos sound like a dry piano vst...not even realistic.
Re: How do you make a fat sounding piano?
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 10:38 am
by jrisreal
blinkesko wrote:
jrisreal wrote:I listened to the piano in those skrillex tunes and the pianos do not sound fat at all. The "fatness" is coming from something else...the pianos sound like a dry piano vst...not even realistic.
That piano is "fatter" and more realistic...but that tune wasn't listed by the OP.
Re: How do you make a fat sounding piano?
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 11:02 am
by AxeD
Play chords. I haven't heard Skrillex but I'm guessing he's sampling piano though.
Re: How do you make a fat sounding piano?
Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 8:39 pm
by chillpenguin
I listed those because they were the first that came to mind. But idk it seems fatter to me than what i get out of my ableton piano. I read in an interview that he uses ableton's piano so i just assumed that he meant for all his songs with piano. Maybe my piano isn't mixing in with everything very well so it doesn't get that fat feeling.