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I thought I'd start a post about how to achieve that deep sub and roots vibes that Mala has

Interesting percussion

SINEWAVE!!!

ethnic percussion

most important thing to remember, is that you cant put man in a room with no subwoofer.

the perfect snare

every time

Nevalo wrote:most important thing to remember, is that you cant put man in a room with no subwoofer.

I'm kind of just guessing how you get a hard, subby kick like that. Not in order:

Layer a natural sample with a 808 kick, or with your synthesised kick (like with fruit kick or ClearDrum), or add a sinewave sample, or sidechain a gate on a subbass instrument.

Compress/limit/multiband compress.

EQ boost the fundemental.

EQ boost the transient?

Transient shaper.

Harmonic exciter?

Pitch shift/tune the kick.

Thanks for the replies so far - really helpful
anyone know how he keeps it all so clean cut esp that sine?

e.g. on his in luv track

To add before anyone sez it - i'm trying to imitate him I merely want to grasp an understanding of his techniques to merge with my own

as i recall he mentioned some spectrasonics vsts in an interview (omnisphere and trillian)
pricey but man i've been abusing em for years
trillian is great for waveforms and real bass sounds but too pricey imo, omnisphere is godly for the cost

deadly habit wrote:trillian is great for waveforms and real bass sounds but too pricey imo, omnisphere is godly for the cost

What do you think to the synthesis side of Omnisphere? Do you make a lot of your own presets? I've only tried it out briefly, wouldn't mind having another look sometime.

omni synthesis is tough to get used to but well worth it
all the cntrols are really sensitive, esp the envelopes and modulation depth
but it has amazing features and sound sources, definitely capable of some incredible patchwork

also amazing presets come with it

also i know it seems impossible but Trillian has by far the best bass waves around
I don't understand it myself, it seems there's nothing to a sub but a fat sine or similar type of wave/sound source, but fuchking hell they do something right in Trillian that can just shake buildings and sound incredibly warm

Today wrote:also i know it seems impossible but Trillian has by far the best bass waves around
I don't understand it myself, it seems there's nothing to a sub but a fat sine or similar type of wave/sound source, but fuchking hell they do something right in Trillian that can just shake buildings and sound incredibly warm

the nice thing about spectrasonic vsts is they spend years recording their waveforms and all the nuances with em (like upright bass for example)
honestly for the most part their vsts can be compared to an old school rompler, but goddamn they are so good
been using and a devout user since i first heard and used atmosphere vst

i got trillian deeply discounted and i love it, but i wouldn't pay full price

deadly habit wrote:the nice thing about spectrasonic vsts is they spend years recording their waveforms and all the nuances with em (like upright bass for example)
honestly for the most part their vsts can be compared to an old school rompler, but goddamn they are so good
been using and a devout user since i first heard and used atmosphere vst

i got trillian deeply discounted and i love it, but i wouldn't pay full price

Yeah man, I saw Herbie Hancock playing with Atmosphere years back in a documentary on him ('Possibilities'). That was the first time I saw it and ended up getting it soon after. Mala has mentioned Trillian yeah. It is pricey, and you could source many of the samples of hardware elsewhere but it's a very nice collection. Basically a ROMpler though, yeah. Still I don't think it's too expensive for what it is... if you look hard for a while you can get it for about 200 usd which I think is fair. Omnisphere is close to 500us, but AFAIK it's Trillian and Atmosphere both in 1 along with other new stuff and programming options. So might be worth springing for that instead.

omnisphere i think is in most of my tunes (once you have it, the library is hard not to find a pad or whatever that works, seriously omnisphere is my top vst), trillian is amazing, but i hate the cost
spectrasonics do some bro tier tutorial vids as well

deadly habit wrote:spectrasonics do some bro tier tutorial vids as well

Oops, I confused Trillian with Trilogy. Mala talked about the latter, and it's surely cheaper as well since it's the old version.

But yeah I remember the Spectrasonics crazy dubstep vids haha. I made this out of one:

heh yeah i loved they mentioned dubstep bass at namm

wormcode wrote: Omnisphere is close to 500us, but AFAIK it's Trillian and Atmosphere both in 1 along with other new stuff and programming options. So might be worth springing for that instead.

it encompasses the Atmosphere preset libraries and effectively replaces Atmosphere in every way, but it isn't encompassing of Trillian
Trilogy/trillian has the synth bass waves that also live in Omni's sound source bank, plus more but Omni doesn't have all the real electric, acoustic and standup basses. including (adjustable) fret/fretboard noise, all the nuances, it's really pretty amazing for a rompler