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Heavy bass sounds help?

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:17 pm
by Python-
Can someone help me make heavy bass sounds such as these? I've always wanted to know the logic behind basses such as these. I know that they are made in massive and Rekoil only uses distortion in massive, but does anyone know what wave tables and modulation is used to get these sounds?

http://soundcloud.com/rekoil/barron-rek ... ay-v1-clip

http://soundcloud.com/barrondubstep/bar ... lica-heist

Re: Sound Design // FM Synthesis // Foley // Field Recording

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 6:04 am
by twilitez
Fm8/ Sytrus for sure.

How To Make This Sound - August/September 2012

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:45 am
by wub
Guidelines

Post examples (using the Video tag if you want to embed YouTube videos) of what sound you want to make - if your question is answered please try (if you can) to help someone back. If you can't help someone back, please contribute somewhere within the forum.

We also have the following threads that might help up front;

Moneyshot thread (Mastering/Mixdown) - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=74832
Resampling - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 4#p2206342
Bass - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.p ... 6#p2204163
Sidechaining - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=209347
How To Sound Like Skrillex & Make Skrillex Bass - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=198681
Sound Design // FM Synthesis // Foley // Field Recording - http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=199401


Wub 8)

Re: How To Make This Sound - August 2012

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:53 am
by MassAphekt

Okay I guess Ill start this off!
I have been wondering lately how to create that gated arp/chord that is featured throughout this track?
It is best found at 1:41 -1:42 ad 2:09 - 2:11, preferably in massive or fm8, thanks in advance :3

Re: How To Make This Sound - August 2012

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:19 am
by Marzz
MassAphekt wrote:
Okay I guess Ill start this off!
I have been wondering lately how to create that gated arp/chord that is featured throughout this track?
It is best found at 1:41 -1:42 ad 2:09 - 2:11, preferably in massive or fm8, thanks in advance :3
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Making sub bass as Phaeleh does

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:32 pm
by WinSile
Hi everyone!

Sorry for my English, i'm not that good in it.

I'm not a fan of creating threads rly, I'm not lazy - moderators, don't get angry plz. I've been reading/watching thousands of tutorials/books/manuals/topics on this forum for the past 3 years, but If overall production level becomes better and better, only one thing isn't clear for me and that's the worst thing in my tracks... How to make such a good, warm, deep sub bass?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRRP0fV5k_k (!!! in priory. I want IT :( )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JONC81hyoD4 (!!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK5LPHi-n3E (! I think that's pitch-automated sub bass, isn't it? )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2OCSWF7sAw

I've loved his last album very much, and I don't want to know, how did he get many other sounds, but sub bass :(

Anyone says, that it's just a sin-squ in Massive, yeah, detune, yeah chorus, maybe crusher, maybe dist, but I cannot get this sound. If you turn off everything except sub in Phaeleh's tracks, anyway It will rock.

Can someone tell me, or better illustrate step-by-step, how?

Re: Making sub bass as Phaeleh does

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:40 pm
by ehbes
It's a sine wave.. Thats it just a sine wave

Re: Making sub bass as Phaeleh does

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:41 pm
by crunkedxup
yeah just a couple sine waves detune one a bit so it has that "warbling" effect. if you're wondering how it hits so hard that could be down to the equipment he might be recording it off some analogue ting

Re: Making sub bass as Phaeleh does

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:42 pm
by Aufnahmewindwuschel
phaeleh did a q and a not too long ago

i think he talked about his sub too maybe have a look into that

Re: How To Make This Sound - August 2012

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:50 pm
by Hellrayza76
I've been wondering how to make this sound for a while. I'm not sure if it's more than 1 sound I am pointing out but it sounds very similar.

The synth plays at .18 seconds as a transition, and then starts at .48 and plays throughout the song.

Thanks to whomever can help!

Also if no one minds telling me really fast how they got the voice like that? I know it's pitched down for sure but is there any autotune, reverb, or EQ involved with getting it like that?


Re: How To Make This Sound - August 2012

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:56 pm
by ehbes
The synth in question is a saw with an lfo with resonance

Re: How To Make This Sound - August 2012

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:06 pm
by Hellrayza76
If I were creating a synth similar to it in Massive, would the lfo be modulating the cutoff, resonance, pitch, or something else?

Re: How To Make This Sound - August 2012

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:12 pm
by ehbes
Well see I use reason so itll be hard to translate.. So what I'd do is set the lfo to the frequency and then add resonance within the filter... Again I have no idea how this would be done massive

Re: Making sub bass as Phaeleh does

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:16 pm
by mthrfnk
WinSile wrote:Hi everyone!

Sorry for my English, i'm not that good in it.

I'm not a fan of creating threads rly, I'm not lazy - moderators, don't get angry plz. I've been reading/watching thousands of tutorials/books/manuals/topics on this forum for the past 3 years, but If overall production level becomes better and better, only one thing isn't clear for me and that's the worst thing in my tracks... How to make such a good, warm, deep sub bass?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRRP0fV5k_k (!!! in priory. I want IT :( )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JONC81hyoD4 (!!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YK5LPHi-n3E (! I think that's pitch-automated sub bass, isn't it? )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2OCSWF7sAw

I've loved his last album very much, and I don't want to know, how did he get many other sounds, but sub bass :(

Anyone says, that it's just a sin-squ in Massive, yeah, detune, yeah chorus, maybe crusher, maybe dist, but I cannot get this sound. If you turn off everything except sub in Phaeleh's tracks, anyway It will rock.

Can someone tell me, or better illustrate step-by-step, how?
In Massive, OSC 1 Saw -12, OSC 2 Sine -12, OSC 3 Sine -24.Play with detuning by small amounts and the unisono, also put it as monorotate. Play with classic distortion and dim. exp. as effects. Low pass and play with the resonance and cutoff to prevent too much top end from the saw. Then saturate and compress.

Re: How To Make This Sound - August 2012

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:20 pm
by Epology
Hellrayza76 wrote:Also if no one minds telling me really fast how they got the voice like that? I know it's pitched down for sure but is there any autotune, reverb, or EQ involved with getting it like that?
It sounds like he made a duplicate of the voice and pitched them both down a bit but one of the voices is pitched lower. It gives sort of an alien effect.

Re: How To Make This Sound - August 2012

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:21 pm
by Rymphony
Hellrayza76 wrote:I've been wondering how to make this sound for a while. I'm not sure if it's more than 1 sound I am pointing out but it sounds very similar.

The synth plays at .18 seconds as a transition, and then starts at .48 and plays throughout the song.

Thanks to whomever can help!

Also if no one minds telling me really fast how they got the voice like that? I know it's pitched down for sure but is there any autotune, reverb, or EQ involved with getting it like that?

lol there is a thread for that.... http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=251720

and that is easy as fuck to make. hoover with pitch going down. ADSR set so it sounds like a pluck

Thick, dense bass sounds

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:19 pm
by JoryS
Hey guys,
I'm wondering if anybody knows how the pros get a really thick, booming bass sound (It just sounds very full). For example, in Feed Me's One Click Headshot:


I do layer my synths, keeping the "bottom" end mostly mono and well compressed and the "top" end panned out wide with some reverb and short delay to fill it up, but I find I'm not getting optimal results.

Re: How To Make This Sound - August 2012

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:27 pm
by Perej
this ting right eere



Main synth.

Synkros synth work is insane.

And i know im gonna get flak for this next one cos it's properly old but I STILL can't figure out how to make the hyph mngo lead, ha.



I know these tunes are old but whatevs.

Re: How To Make This Sound - August 2012

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:59 pm
by WinSile
phaeleh did a q and a not too long ago

i think he talked about his sub too maybe have a look into that
what does mean "q"? transcribe the sentence in common English, please.

I didn't find any posts about his sub on this forum, google and local search can't help me, by the way :(
In Massive, OSC 1 Saw -12, OSC 2 Sine -12, OSC 3 Sine -24.Play with detuning by small amounts and the unisono, also put it as monorotate. Play with classic distortion and dim. exp. as effects. Low pass and play with the resonance and cutoff to prevent too much top end from the saw. Then saturate and compress.
that was helpful! thank you. I've become near to THAT sound.

Re: How To Make This Sound - August 2012

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:09 pm
by mthrfnk
WinSile wrote:
phaeleh did a q and a not too long ago

i think he talked about his sub too maybe have a look into that
what does mean "q"? transcribe the sentence in common English, please.

I didn't find any posts about his sub on this forum, google and local search can't help me, by the way :(
In Massive, OSC 1 Saw -12, OSC 2 Sine -12, OSC 3 Sine -24.Play with detuning by small amounts and the unisono, also put it as monorotate. Play with classic distortion and dim. exp. as effects. Low pass and play with the resonance and cutoff to prevent too much top end from the saw. Then saturate and compress.
that was helpful! thank you. I've become near to THAT sound.
Q&A means "question and answer" like an interview session.

Also I'm glad that helped, I just had another though, check out the default Massive patch "3 Octave Sub" and just look at how they modulate the envelopes and cutoff of the low pass filter, quite good ideas.