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Ableton how to see whats eating CPU

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:43 am
by outdropt
Anyone know if there is any VST or MAX plugin you guys know of that would tell you which channels are taking up the most CPU power. It sucks after a make a sweet mixdown, go back and listen to the song to make adjustments and automate some things and my CPU is hitting 100+%.. Makes things skip/crack/ and sometimes shutdown.

Another thing that sucks is having to go back through everything to freeze tracks. I want to know which tracks are taking up the most CPU so i can get those out tof the way first. Its obveous that its that channels with the most effects processing but its just tedeous having to go threw 60 + channels to tame everything. Just curious if you guys have seen a plugin like mentioned.

Bounce to audio is the ultimate thing to lighten the load on the CPU but during the mixdown process i dont want to bounce down if i still feel theres more i can add.

Re: Ableton how to see whats eating CPU

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:59 am
by ehbes
dont mix down until your happy with everything :corntard:

Re: Ableton how to see whats eating CPU

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:38 am
by Climax
60+ channels yikes

Re: Ableton how to see whats eating CPU

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:54 am
by TeRRo
bump, stuck with this situation on my current tune. Really want to sit down and finish it up but feel that there's way too much CPU clutter making the whole process very unstable

Re: Ableton how to see whats eating CPU

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:07 am
by dubesteppe
if you are mixing your track, bounce every thing down to audio.

Re: Ableton how to see whats eating CPU

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:40 pm
by Sparxy
You have to work within your means (bounce audio, freeze tracks, be creatively clever and savvy) or get a better machine. There's no other way really.

Re: Ableton how to see whats eating CPU

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 1:41 pm
by Samuel_L_Damnson
Bouncing to audio like sparxy said is probably your best bet

Re: Ableton how to see whats eating CPU

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:18 pm
by JTMMusicuk
do you actually need all 60 tracks? if your duplicating lots of synths and just changing one or two things to do with the sound then you should just use the macros .
Or if your using lots of audio tracks for samples with the same effects chains or filter curves then you only need one track aslong as the sounds dont overlap (obviously)
You turned your buffer rate up?

Re: Ableton how to see whats eating CPU

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:44 pm
by outdropt
Buffer rate is pretty high as is.

Its not duplicates.

I get pretty crazy with routing in ableton so its not like i can just go in and freeze my track. Most of my audio id going threw 4-5 busses before its sent out to my speakers. Gotta jump up to 8gb-16 gb ram.......

Re: Ableton how to see whats eating CPU

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:58 pm
by __________
Check the polyphony on your synths. I was spinning out trying to figure out why one of my projects was going nuts and it turned out I'd set one of my synths to 16 voices unintentionally.

Re: Ableton how to see whats eating CPU

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:08 pm
by outdropt
£10 Bag wrote:Check the polyphony on your synths. I was spinning out trying to figure out why one of my projects was going nuts and it turned out I'd set one of my synths to 16 voices unintentionally.
That eats alot of CPU? My voices in massive are left at 16. Ill change it out though and see if it makes a diffrence, thanks!

Re: Ableton how to see whats eating CPU

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:51 pm
by Comfi
outdropt wrote:
£10 Bag wrote:Check the polyphony on your synths. I was spinning out trying to figure out why one of my projects was going nuts and it turned out I'd set one of my synths to 16 voices unintentionally.
That eats alot of CPU? My voices in massive are left at 16. Ill change it out though and see if it makes a diffrence, thanks!

Problem solved i bet!

More voices = more cpu. Quite a lot more in fact.

Re: Ableton how to see whats eating CPU

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:35 am
by ortamusic
Review your individual tracks and delete effects that you're not using. That usually happens to me most of the time. Plus you could easily free tracks, that'll get the CPU running smoothly again. Whoa man, 60+ tracks - that's a huge ass arrangement right there!

Re: Ableton how to see whats eating CPU

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 7:51 am
by JTMMusicuk
out of interest; what bus groups are you making? i only tend to use busses for reverbs and delays but i know some people tend to group bass parts and drums (etc.) to them for their mixdown process.
Any detail into why your routing helps would be appreaciated man

Re: Ableton how to see whats eating CPU

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 10:06 am
by __________
outdropt wrote:
£10 Bag wrote:Check the polyphony on your synths. I was spinning out trying to figure out why one of my projects was going nuts and it turned out I'd set one of my synths to 16 voices unintentionally.
That eats alot of CPU? My voices in massive are left at 16. Ill change it out though and see if it makes a diffrence, thanks!
It can do depending on how the synth works. I don't use Massive but on a couple of the virtual analogue synths I use in most of my tracks, turning up the voices can eat up CPU like nobody's business!

Re: Ableton how to see whats eating CPU

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 11:40 am
by whineo
Check your EQs
Disable any eq bands that are not making cuts or boosts

Re: Ableton how to see whats eating CPU

Posted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 1:33 pm
by outdropt
JTMMusicuk wrote:out of interest; what bus groups are you making? i only tend to use busses for reverbs and delays but i know some people tend to group bass parts and drums (etc.) to them for their mixdown process.
Any detail into why your routing helps would be appreaciated man
Lets see if i can get this right

I got Groups for

Vocals
Synths
Atmospheres
Subs
Bass
drums
impacts

Most of my processing is at this level. Get pretty complex with multiple effects racks and band splitting

Depending on how i feel like processing... I.E. am i going to try to have synth leads while vocals are playing, am i going to have high end synths while mid bass is playing, ect. I will bus some of these components together.

Most instances

Vocals+synths+atmospheres
Sub+bass
Drums+impacts

Ill add sausage fattner and maybe camelphat at this point. I do alot of transitional filter effects at this point as well.

From here ill bus into master+effects/master no effects.

Master with effects is used for sweeps with some distortion for intros and transitional effect. Master with no effects is used for things i dont want to be filtered IE drums in intro, impacts, ect.