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Must Have Hardware & Patches

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2012 11:07 pm
by JustDubIt
As I am new to makin dubstep on FL I have very little understanding what I need to have little limits when making my beats, so the jist of this thread is for you educated bringers of wubs to educate us nubs on what you should have and why.

I currently have a laptop, a mouse and DiddyBeats earphones lol. I am planning on getting a MIDI keyboard - but I dont know what is the best cheapish one to get.

Software
What other than NI Massive do you use to make dubstep

Gimme a hand making my shopping list please fellas! Hopefully we can get a decent list of must have hardware so that people like me who visit this forum (i bet most of you where starting too when you first joined) are aware of what they are missing around on.

Re: Must Have Hardware & Patches

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:02 am
by ehbes

Re: Must Have Hardware & Patches

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:04 am
by wolf89
Make your own patches is the way

Re: Must Have Hardware & Patches

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:18 am
by glottis5
the only hardware you really need is good monitors

a midi controller is HIGHLY recommended, but you can deffo make music without one.

if you want a cheap MIDI controller, you can look around for a used Casio/Yamaha/etc keyboard that has MIDI capabilities, you can get something with 61 keys for pretty cheap. probably not going to have any sliders or knobs though.

Re: Must Have Hardware & Patches

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:19 am
by RandoRando
fm8 and massive and some drum packs, nexus helps too. thats almost 1000$ right there so get saving

Re: Must Have Hardware & Patches

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:24 am
by Bassf4ce
RandoRando wrote:fm8 and massive and some drum packs, nexus helps too. thats almost 1000$ right there so get saving
I would say sytrus is just as good as fm8 so not a must for Fl studio

Re: Must Have Hardware & Patches

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:29 am
by glottis5
Bassf4ce wrote:
RandoRando wrote:fm8 and massive and some drum packs, nexus helps too. thats almost 1000$ right there so get saving
I would say sytrus is just as good as fm8 so not a must for Fl studio
yeah, instead of spending $1000 on vsts and drum packs, get synth1 (brilliant free softsynth) and some vintage drum machine samples

edit: you can get a Korg microKEY61 midi controller for about $180 and it comes with http://www.korg.com/legacy which is the coolest vst collection IMO

Re: Must Have Hardware & Patches

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:58 am
by Marzz
JustDubIt wrote:I currently have a laptop, a mouse and DiddyBeats earphones lol
This is all you really need

Re: Must Have Hardware & Patches

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:07 am
by nowaysj
First, you will need a car made out of stainless steel. I know where you can get one.

The flux capacitor, again, a necessity. Could be difficult finding new, but the used market should yield results.

The 1.21 jiggawattz, that shouldn't be all that hard with digitally controlled modern capacitors. Can buy new.

Re: Must Have Hardware & Patches

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:09 am
by wub
If you're going to be doing a lot of resampling in Massive, then a ProTools rig would help with latency issues.

Re: Must Have Hardware & Patches

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:29 am
by benjam
Dubturbo!!!! you should hear my gfs beat :o

Re: Must Have Hardware & Patches

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:37 am
by hasezwei
you should just buy reaktor its what they built massive with so you can basically rebuild massive but customize it with for example more oscillators or a sampler or even an inbuilt resampling function and then no one would be able to replicate your sound cause youre the only one with that plugin its kinda like what skrillex did i heard he had a company rebuild massive with modular hardware for him and when hes on the road with his laptop its got like an app that translates the settings from his massive vst to the modular in his studio and it streams the audio in realtime

Re: Must Have Hardware & Patches

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:32 pm
by Towany
Computer and monitors.....sorted.

you really don't need hardware/midi keyboard.

Re: Must Have Hardware & Patches

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:34 pm
by Electric_Head
You don't need monitors ether.

Re: Must Have Hardware & Patches

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:41 pm
by hasezwei
yea electric head is right most really successful producers are always on the road they cant use monitors cause theyre always on tour so they just use headphones beats by dr dre are good btw the big famous edm acts all dont use monitors so dont waste your money on them also you can use your headphones with your ipod so its like 2 in 1

Re: Must Have Hardware & Patches

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:42 pm
by Electric_Head
Yes, that's what I said.

Re: Must Have Hardware & Patches

Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 5:25 pm
by Towany
I'm just saying from my point of view and monitors helped me improve my mixdowns 90%.....Dunno how that is or why but its just how it worked for me so when I'm telling anyone that is starting out what they need I always say monitors.

Re: Must Have Hardware & Patches

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 2:38 am
by wolf89
Yeah Monitors are important really. Though technically it is possible to produce with good headphones (Current Value uses them mainly for example) also ignore hasezwei he's being a dick. Beats by Dre headphones suck

Re: Must Have Hardware & Patches

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:04 am
by glottis5
wolf89 wrote:Yeah Monitors are important really. Though technically it is possible to produce with good headphones (Current Value uses them mainly for example) also ignore hasezwei he's being a dick. Beats by Dre headphones suck
yeah, you can produce with non-monitor headphones or speakers, as long as they're reasonably accurate and you can hear all the frequencies. Apparently Dre headphones boost the bass quite a bit. Earbuds and laptop speakers are a no-no too because you can't hear anything below ~100hz on those.

Re: Must Have Hardware & Patches

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:55 am
by Coolschmid
I don't have too much experience in regards to mixing and accurate monitoring, but all of the tunes I worked on with just my hi-fi speakers all still sounded fine when I played them through my krks. The mixes were pretty much exactly the same, I just had to touch up some bass frequencies present that my hi fis didn't even play.

That being said I love my krks, and I know they are shit compared to "good" monitors but its not like I can afford those. So I guess my opinion is that as long as you understand the coloring of your system on the actual sound, you are fine. That being said, the closer your system is to being flat response the easier it is to understand the coloring of the sound, and the easiest way to get the closest to flat response (or at least to think you are close to flat response ;-) ) is to invest in some monitors or good monitoring headphones.