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Way to cut down on scratchy sounds when playing vinyl?

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 3:38 pm
by Elektronikz
Some of the songs on these albums have a lot of scratchy sounds. And its not supposed to be there. Any way to make it to where they aren't there so much whether during playing or edit it afterwards?

Re: Way to cut down on scratchy sounds when playing vinyl?

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:21 pm
by dickman69
well you could clean them
check the weight on your stylus
clean your stylus
EQ

& in audacity there is a function to remove certain wavelengths, so what i used to do is select a bit of recording while the needle was on the cue path, or that bit w/ no sound, and select that & then select all & remove that sound from the entire recording... dont do this anymore tho, b/c you lose a lot of highs

ive realized that for hip hop, i actually like crackles, they add to the tune so i rarely do anything anymore other than cut out the most annoying, loud pops

u can see what im talking about w/ this https://vimeo.com/50119198

Re: Way to cut down on scratchy sounds when playing vinyl?

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:26 pm
by Elektronikz
Yeah I could see it for hiphop, but I don't like it on these Disco & Rock records. But thanks for the advice :D

Re: Way to cut down on scratchy sounds when playing vinyl?

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:41 pm
by mthrfnk
There are plugins that can help with this, Waves has a few that remove common frequenicies where scratching and hisses occur.

Re: Way to cut down on scratchy sounds when playing vinyl?

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:46 pm
by apastrat
rayman612 wrote:well you could clean them
check the weight on your stylus
clean your stylus
EQ

& in audacity there is a function to remove certain wavelengths, so what i used to do is select a bit of recording while the needle was on the cue path, or that bit w/ no sound, and select that & then select all & remove that sound from the entire recording... dont do this anymore tho, b/c you lose a lot of highs

ive realized that for hip hop, i actually like crackles, they add to the tune so i rarely do anything anymore other than cut out the most annoying, loud pops

u can see what im talking about w/ this https://vimeo.com/50119198
How do you EQ a crackle, it's not like it's on one certain frequency?

Re: Way to cut down on scratchy sounds when playing vinyl?

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:48 pm
by dickman69
apastrat wrote:How do you EQ a crackle, it's not like it's on one certain frequency?
mthrfnk wrote:remove common frequenicies where scratching and hisses occur.

Re: Way to cut down on scratchy sounds when playing vinyl?

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 4:53 pm
by apastrat
rayman612 wrote:
apastrat wrote:How do you EQ a crackle, it's not like it's on one certain frequency?
mthrfnk wrote:remove common frequenicies where scratching and hisses occur.
So just eq out part of a tune?

Edit: i maybe wrong, but i don't think he was talking about EQing, more likely some noise removing plugin, which is a bit different than just adding an equalizer on top.

Re: Way to cut down on scratchy sounds when playing vinyl?

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 5:19 pm
by dickman69
it doesn't work all the time

Re: Way to cut down on scratchy sounds when playing vinyl?

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 6:26 pm
by chekov
personally i think disco and rock sound much better with some crackle, both genres often sound pretty shit when the sound quality's too clean

Re: Way to cut down on scratchy sounds when playing vinyl?

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:17 am
by Elektronikz
Well, the reason I'm trying to get them cleaned up is to get some samples from them...

Re: Way to cut down on scratchy sounds when playing vinyl?

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:26 am
by deadly_habit
clean the record, make sure your stylus is dust free, other than that yea eq is about all you can do
there are plugins aimed to reduce vinyl crackle out there though

Re: Way to cut down on scratchy sounds when playing vinyl?

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:39 am
by fragments
Elektronikz wrote:Some of the songs on these albums have a lot of scratchy sounds. And its not supposed to be there. Any way to make it to where they aren't there so much whether during playing or edit it afterwards?
Why bother sampling vinyl if you are going to clean it up? Just buy CDs or .wav files. ...

Re: Way to cut down on scratchy sounds when playing vinyl?

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 12:54 pm
by dickman69
Elektronikz wrote:Well, the reason I'm trying to get them cleaned up is to get some samples from them...
if ur sampling whats wrong w/ kraklez

ppl hear it & go "o he mustve sampled this from VINYL!?!" "wut a cool guy"

Re: Way to cut down on scratchy sounds when playing vinyl?

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 2:37 pm
by Elektronikz
fragments wrote:
Elektronikz wrote:Some of the songs on these albums have a lot of scratchy sounds. And its not supposed to be there. Any way to make it to where they aren't there so much whether during playing or edit it afterwards?
Why bother sampling vinyl if you are going to clean it up? Just buy CDs or .wav files. ...

Because, some things you just can't get on CD or .wav

Re: Way to cut down on scratchy sounds when playing vinyl?

Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:28 pm
by fragments
Elektronikz wrote:
fragments wrote:
Elektronikz wrote:Some of the songs on these albums have a lot of scratchy sounds. And its not supposed to be there. Any way to make it to where they aren't there so much whether during playing or edit it afterwards?
Why bother sampling vinyl if you are going to clean it up? Just buy CDs or .wav files. ...

Because, some things you just can't get on CD or .wav
Fair play. Unless the crackle is just TERRIBLE I don't see an issue...but I like that kind of "character" in a sample. Pretty much the only options I'm aware of have been listed here for trying to reduce that. Except maybe expensive plug ins that are supposed to clean up audio.