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Hi DSF

I'm trying to do some market research related to what audio products people buy to potentially guide my own product line development (which is making progress).

I'm wondering who's bought what? I'm also wondering what drives people to buy software considering the amount of great freeware and availability of cracked software?

The plugins I've bought are:

FX
ApQualizer
Camel Audio Camel Phat 3
Sugarbytes Effectrix
JB Red Phatt Pro
Melda Creative Bundle
Ohmforce Quadfrohmage

Sampler
One Small Clue Poise (Drums)

Synths
Vember Audio Surge (Synth)

Loop & Sample Packs
None

Any insights shared will be much appreciated!

Peace

Patrick

FX
Sugarbytes WOW Filter
Audiodamage Eos
Stillwell The Rocket
Izotope Ozone
Izotope Nectar

Sampler
Kontakt
Maschine

Synths
NI Massive
NI Absynth
NI Razor
NI Reaktor (Komplete essentials bundle)

Sample packs
The deep house and world essentials from loopmasters, some nice drums in there, hats could be better.

Awesome

If you don't mind me asking, what is it that attracts you to purchase a plugin?

Patrick

futures_untold wrote:Awesome

If you don't mind me asking, what is it that attracts you to purchase a plugin?

Patrick

If it's unstable as a crack.

futures_untold wrote:Awesome

If you don't mind me asking, what is it that attracts you to purchase a plugin?

Patrick

You pay for what you get. When you start sending your shit around, signing tunes and playing out and you are not putting out the best sounding tunes, you are not putting out tunes at all.

I bought everything i use

DAW:
MOTU DP 7

VIRTUAL INSTRUMENTS:
Reason 4
NI Komplete 7
Spectrasonics Omnisphere and Stylus RMX
Rob Papen Predator
Arturia Moog Modular, Minimoog, ARP and CS-80v emulations
NI Maschine

EFFECTS (and why i bought them) :
a bunch of UAD stuff with my UAD card (industry standard)
Waves Platinum bundle (industry standard)
D16 distortions (cheap and effective)
EaReckon EaReverb (cheap and effective)
Antares Autotune (needed for a project, imo irreplaceable software)
Soundtoys bundle (terrific FX)

Audio Loop editing/REX converter:
ReCycle (must-have)

I pay for them because i get support and updates and a clear conscience.

if anything breaks or goes down, i immediately call support from my vendor or the manufacturer and demand to be serviced til i'm up and running again.
no ifs, ands or buts
this is why i pay for everything
i feel totally secure and entitled to a working rig. if something fails, it's not my responsibility to replace or repair it, because i've paid for the support and they will get me up and running. Not only are they contractually obligated to, but they also know i'm a paying customer with an expanding rig, and they want my business long term. So you get treated like gold and nothing stays broken. totally worth it to me, i'd never bother fucking with cracks

How's DP working for you? I've had great experiences with MOTU hardware and honestly the daw looks beautiful. How is it in comparison to the more tradicional DAWs (verba gratia cubase, logic, protools et coetera)?

Hircine wrote:

futures_untold wrote:Awesome

If you don't mind me asking, what is it that attracts you to purchase a plugin?

Patrick

You pay for what you get. When you start sending your shit around, signing tunes and playing out and you are not putting out the best sounding tunes, you are not putting out tunes at all.

Would I be correct in rephrasing that to something like - The quality of payware is better than freeware or cracks, thus my tunes sound better which means the tracks are more likely to get released?

@Today

Thanks for the insights

Biggest purchase I have made recently is NI Komplete 8...awesome stuff in there but Massive still likes to crash on me almost every day. If I can afford something and I see myself using it a decent amount I feel obligated to pay.

NI Komplete

Z3ta 2
Camel Phat 3
Tone2 BiFilter 2
Stylus Rmx
Big Tick Rhino 2
Alien303

Loops & Samples
too many

Hircine wrote:
You pay for what you get. When you start sending your shit around, signing tunes and playing out and you are not putting out the best sounding tunes, you are not putting out tunes at all.

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Not to derail or create a massive debate but this as I'm sure futures_untold will attest to is where we disagree, free plugins are as capable.

The poll at the top is dumb - it's a combination of all of those points that make someone buy a plugin, not any one factor.

For me to buy a plugin, as opposed to torrent it, it needs to be good. Sound quality, features, user interface etc all need to be there. Also i don't want to go on their forum and see posts from 2005 about bugs that haven't ever been fixed. Lastly, if it needs ilok or any sort of dongle, no chance.

The first synth i bought was Diva as i loved the sound quality. Next on the list will be Komplete, as i use NI's stuff a lot. Although their customer service leaves a lot to be desired, i have one of their sound cards and it took about 10 emails back and fourth answering the same questions before they understood my question.

You might want to make it so we can select like the top 2 or 3 for your poll, I tend to buy based on a combination of factors.

Ableton Live 8 (not the suite, whatever the standard one is)
Komplete 8
Toxic Biohazard
Fabfilter volcano 2
Saturn
Pro c
Pro l
pro g
Adam Szabo jp6k

Bundles and educational discounts have saved me soooooo much money.

Hircine wrote:How's DP working for you? I've had great experiences with MOTU hardware and honestly the daw looks beautiful. How is it in comparison to the more tradicional DAWs (verba gratia cubase, logic, protools et coetera)?

from what i gather, DP is kinda "for DP kinda guys" and i am one of those
imo it's more stripped down and modular than other stuff. but i haven't tried much else, i've taken a crack at logic and pro tools. They seem more set up to be used in a certain way, so to speak. I have a hard time explaining but i'll try

for instance, if i instantiate Maschine in Logic, it automatically has a mixer channel pumping for each pad in each group on my maschine. I have no idea why or how maschine utilizes its multi-outs in such a way where they automatically sync up with Logic mixer's faders. But i see them metering while i knock away at the beat pads. I have no idea how to tell Logic to print those tracks to audio, and i don't like lumping insert effects into those mixer channels knowing the source audio is being triggered from my Maschine.


in DP, maschine launches and all the audio comes right out of its main outputs and it meters on the instrument track only. I route each of the multi-outs to their own audio channel, and record my beat. It just does exactly what you tell it to, no crypic inner-workings.

i think that Logic just has a streamlined integration with Maschine and other midi stuff which is great, but to me seems dumbed down. I only want my virtual cables to go where i plug them into, so to speak. DP is set up like a total customizable template, you just create mono, stereo, aux or instrument tracks and set ins and outs.

so more or less it isn't going to route anything automatically or without telling you

other than that, it's pretty much the same shit in comparison to anything else. they all do the same thing imo, host virtual instruments, AD/DA conversion, sequencer, editor, and their own characteristic quirks, extra tools, bonus stuff and interface. I am just really used to the environment of DP.

one thing that is a bummer is DP doesn't have a basic, good-sounding utility for fucking with the pitch of audio. Any midi with pitchbend works fine, easy to edit in the midi sequencer, but to simply screw down or chipmunk a vocal for instance, it can't fuckin do it. pisses me off because it should be so basic, even the simplest DAW's have this feature.

Thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts and insights so far.

Responding to your feedback, I've updated the poll to accept 5 selections.

futures_untold wrote:Thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts and insights so far.

Responding to your feedback, I've updated the poll to accept 5 selections.

I bought Komplete 8 ultimate and maschine used for cheap, great set of synths and instruments

OfficialDAPT wrote:

futures_untold wrote:Thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts and insights so far.

Responding to your feedback, I've updated the poll to accept 5 selections.

I bought Komplete 8 ultimate and maschine used for cheap, great set of synths and instruments

If you don't mind me asking, was the decision to buy based on the price?

Also, where did you find out about the availability of the bundle/kit? Was it through a place like SOS Classifieds / KVR Market place, word-of-mouth or somewhere else?

Komplete 8

Premium tube series

future: i pm'd you. i have taken a couple market research classes. i can help you design a bit more of a comprehensive and complete survey if you would like. i pm'd you.

@ Eat Bass - responded to your PM, thanks!