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your favorite synth to create distorted 303 sounds?
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:17 am
by jetpackjotto
just wondering if anyone has a favorite when it comes to nice, squelchy acid sounds or just hard, driving distorted screeches. i've personally noiticed sylenth1 to be nice but lacks a bit of low end?
dunno, i cant afford to buy one so i figure i'd find a good VST to do the job...
Re: your favorite synth to create distorted 303 sounds?
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 4:58 am
by test_recordings
Albino? Massive can't do it as far I can tell
Re: your favorite synth to create distorted 303 sounds?
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:27 am
by jetpackjotto
ill try that. i've been wanting to try albino.
btw, Massive does have a wavetable called "Acid" that you might wanna try. i've gotten a few nice resonated squelch sounds out of it
Re: your favorite synth to create distorted 303 sounds?
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 6:44 am
by test_recordings
To be honest I just don't like the sounds of massive. Good for stabs and neurofunk but too clinical for my liking. I really want to get my own hardware synth and just record that, that squelch is mostly from the filter anyway so if you find a good stand-alone module you're sorted.
Re: your favorite synth to create distorted 303 sounds?
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:56 am
by outbound
I"ve been playing about with this recently:-
http://www.d16.pl/index.php?menu=10
A lot of fun and sounds pretty damn good
Re: your favorite synth to create distorted 303 sounds?
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 10:16 am
by test_recordings
That actually sounds alright
Bit too soft though, in my opinion. That's my general opinion of soft synths though. I am pretty impressed by the DnB fat bass, though. I'd actually consider using it for that purpose after hearing it. The distorted bass sounds a bit rough otherwise, nice mids and treble for pads and stabs though
Re: your favorite synth to create distorted 303 sounds?
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:11 pm
by mthrfnk
I like the look of that D16 plug, was looking at it a few days ago, their stuff seems pretty nice.
Atm for 303ish sounds I use Vanguard.
Re: your favorite synth to create distorted 303 sounds?
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:40 pm
by AxeD
You can get really great 303 clones for like 250 dolla. Hand-build stuff with quality components.
Re: your favorite synth to create distorted 303 sounds?
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 12:45 pm
by test_recordings
Nice! Analogue smashes it every time
Re: your favorite synth to create distorted 303 sounds?
Posted: Sun Feb 24, 2013 1:15 pm
by jetpackjotto
Wow, great info guys. Many thanks!
I'll try some more of these soft synths, and who knows... maybe a 303 will be my first hardware purchase!
Thanks again.
Re: your favorite synth to create distorted 303 sounds?
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:52 am
by Barka
Yeah, the D16 one is a TB-303 software clone that should sound pretty close to the original hardware. According to them and their graphs at least. Looks quite similar too!
Re: your favorite synth to create distorted 303 sounds?
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 1:57 am
by test_recordings
I'd still suggest a modular synth over a 303, more versatile and can be easily modified over time. You can probably pick up the basics for one as 2 VCOs, an LFO, filter, and VCA for $200, if that.
Re: your favorite synth to create distorted 303 sounds?
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:51 am
by Artie_Fufkin
The G-Sonique Alien303 is pretty good imo.
Re: your favorite synth to create distorted 303 sounds?
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 4:59 am
by fragments
Try unsynched lfo's *subtly* modulating distortion, pitch shift to simulate analog drift/slop. Use a delay, very short delay time...feedback to taste, overdrive this into a LPF to darken the tone, probably some resonance. You want a short enough delay that it's more of a thickening effect like a chorus than a real delay. <---just some general tips on making things sound a bit more analog ish.
Re: your favorite synth to create distorted 303 sounds?
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 7:12 am
by test_recordings
You could also make the envelope add to the distortion, recreating the intensity-distortion ratio of actual saturation
Re: your favorite synth to create distorted 303 sounds?
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 2:55 pm
by Aphile
fragments wrote:Try unsynched lfo's *subtly* modulating distortion, pitch shift to simulate analog drift/slop. Use a delay, very short delay time...feedback to taste, overdrive this into a LPF to darken the tone, probably some resonance. You want a short enough delay that it's more of a thickening effect like a chorus than a real delay. <---just some general tips on making things sound a bit more analog ish.
there's a whole rabbit's hole that is making things sound analog.
Re: your favorite synth to create distorted 303 sounds?
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:02 pm
by claudedefaren
d16s one is awesome
Re: your favorite synth to create distorted 303 sounds?
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:10 pm
by wub
http://www.audiorealism.se/abl/abl_info.htm
The legendary silver box which is hallmark in electronic music has been recreated in AudioRealism Bass Line. Analog modeling techniques have been employed to create a DSP-algorithm that accurately emulates every aspect of the original Bass Line, from growling basses to hollow middles and beeping highs with metal rattling accents. Patterns are composed in a fashion similar to the original Bass Line using the integrated step sequencer with easy to use manipulation functions such as transpose and randomization.
Can't recommend this one enough
Re: your favorite synth to create distorted 303 sounds?
Posted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:25 pm
by fragments
Aphile wrote:fragments wrote:Try unsynched lfo's *subtly* modulating distortion, pitch shift to simulate analog drift/slop. Use a delay, very short delay time...feedback to taste, overdrive this into a LPF to darken the tone, probably some resonance. You want a short enough delay that it's more of a thickening effect like a chorus than a real delay. <---just some general tips on making things sound a bit more analog ish.
there's a whole rabbit's hole that is making things sound analog.
Certainly is. Having worked a bit with a few pieces analog gear, some "high end" and "low end" software emulations, and searching for that vibe through my own sound sculpting I thought I'd just offer a small bit of a method anyone with a standard DAW and native plug ins can do. I think the real key that helped me understand why analog sounds the way it does is reading the white papers on a some of the emulations.
Re: your favorite synth to create distorted 303 sounds?
Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:19 am
by Electric_Head
Artie Fufkin wrote:The G-Sonique Alien303 is pretty good imo.
This is my weapon of choice.