Talking about wookie, zed bias, shy cookie and ofcourse el-b.
Wanted to know how they come about those dark basses they create.
Obviously alot of this is analogue and made using hardware but wondering how you'd apply this to software?
And what audio units (vst) would you recommend for these?
I know they can be applied on any synth but there are some that are alot easier than others to create the sound you're after such as massive with filthy basses etc
Using logic pro btw, hope you can help, thanks
Re: Old school garage
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:14 pm
by mthrfnk
Low pass square waves. Any synth that does square waves. Use the search feature.
Re: Old school garage
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:23 pm
by Dropkick_Kid
mthrfnk wrote:Low pass square waves. Any synth that does square waves. Use the search feature.
I guessed square waves already, just can get anywhere near the sound i'm after.
Always ends up sounding reesy
Re: Old school garage
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:26 pm
by alz
there's a cool production video with el-b somewhere on youtube, watch that.
Re: Old school garage
Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:33 pm
by mthrfnk
dr-zitbag wrote:
mthrfnk wrote:Low pass square waves. Any synth that does square waves. Use the search feature.
I guessed square waves already, just can get anywhere near the sound i'm after.
Always ends up sounding reesy
There's a lot of threads about this stuff, search them out, you don't need to emulate hardware - you need to learn the synths you do have.
Re: Old school garage
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:40 pm
by 5415
Found the el-b masterclass after a quick dig :
lookin forward to watchin this myself
Edit: lol at his awe of serato.
Gives some good advice on compression and workflow.
Doesn't say much bout how he gets his basslines part from that they're sampled from a Roland jp8000 then chopped up.
Re: Old school garage
Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:58 pm
by skimpi
dr-zitbag wrote:
mthrfnk wrote:Low pass square waves. Any synth that does square waves. Use the search feature.
I guessed square waves already, just can get anywhere near the sound i'm after.
Always ends up sounding reesy
Dont detune them then haha, just have one square oscilator. But yeah if you have more than one wave dont detune them against each other then you wont get the reesy movement
Just get a square wave and then autmoate or envelope the low pass filter cutoff with some resonance on it
Re: Old school garage
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:02 am
by Genevieve
Slight saturation after the low-passing is also purty sweet. Probably adds to the old school effect
Re: Old school garage
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:42 pm
by bkwsk
Search for tutorials on hollow basses. As everyone said already, lowpassed square waves or a couple sines in an FM synth with a nice attack time on the modulator and detuning is what most classic ukg patches are about.
sais wrote:Found the el-b masterclass after a quick dig :
lookin forward to watchin this myself
Edit: lol at his awe of serato.
Gives some good advice on compression and workflow.
Doesn't say much bout how he gets his basslines part from that they're sampled from a Roland jp8000 then chopped up.
man it's been YEARS since i saw that El-B interview. really a lot of gold in there-- keep it simple, write good melodies, work your singer (entertaining how pitchy that final vocal was to 2013 ears-- so used to hearing melodyne)...
Re: Old school garage
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:00 am
by blu2
I find adding a lot of over drive to sine or square subs to make great garage basses