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hey guys, subject pretty much sums it up

im using ableton for the record

but i've ignored this until now. whenever i have, lets say, 3 kicks in a row (1/16th notes) they peak out. otherwise, i can mix it right. i tried turning down the sample length. nada. if i take out the middle kick it works fine but im not willing to settle.

how do the pro's go about doing this. and please don't say limiter. i don't want a shortcut. i came here for proper advice. if using a limiter is my only choice then so be it.

thanks peeps

turn them down

hudson wrote:turn them down

I have to say when I saw this was the only reply I lol'd. But, are your kicks audio clips in the arrangement or samples in a sampler? If they are in a sampler you can set a group of samples (usually, i use logic's esx24) to cut each other off, so when i have like 808 kicks or something i put it in a group and set the poly to 1, meaning that group will only play one sample at a time. So the kicks never overlap and get louder... which sounds like what's happening to you.

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invisibled wrote:

hudson wrote:turn them down

I have to say when I saw this was the only reply I lol'd. But, are your kicks audio clips in the arrangement or samples in a sampler? If they are in a sampler you can set a group of samples (usually, i use logic's esx24) to cut each other off, so when i have like 808 kicks or something i put it in a group and set the poly to 1, meaning that group will only play one sample at a time. So the kicks never overlap and get louder... which sounds like what's happening to you.

hahahaha. thank you sir, for exactly the answer i was looking for.

as far as "turning it down" it was kinda the first thing i thought of. i can mix anything with anything at a low volume, but i want things cohesive and relative.

editted because i was an asshole when i originally wrote it

Just trim the tails off the first two in audio b2b shorten the midi notes for the first two?

When playing consecutive kicks I usually bring the velocity down a little bit for a couple of them, I think it sounds a bit too 'drum machine' if you're rapid firing 16th notes with 100% velocity. Especially if it's a compressed to shit Vengeance sample.

Talált wrote:

invisibled wrote:

hudson wrote:turn them down

I have to say when I saw this was the only reply I lol'd. But, are your kicks audio clips in the arrangement or samples in a sampler? If they are in a sampler you can set a group of samples (usually, i use logic's esx24) to cut each other off, so when i have like 808 kicks or something i put it in a group and set the poly to 1, meaning that group will only play one sample at a time. So the kicks never overlap and get louder... which sounds like what's happening to you.

hahahaha. thank you sir, for exactly the answer i was looking for. i oughta smack that other man, however.

i guess now i might as well justify my desire to smack him. it's not so much that your answer was a dumb one. but it was kinda the first thing i thought of. here's the deal with mixing though since apparently you're unaware. i can mix anything with anything at a low volume, it's about getting things cohesive and relative. proceed..

Sorry to be 'that guy' but this was pretty obvious, no need to get touchy

Talált wrote:

invisibled wrote:

hudson wrote:turn them down

I have to say when I saw this was the only reply I lol'd. But, are your kicks audio clips in the arrangement or samples in a sampler? If they are in a sampler you can set a group of samples (usually, i use logic's esx24) to cut each other off, so when i have like 808 kicks or something i put it in a group and set the poly to 1, meaning that group will only play one sample at a time. So the kicks never overlap and get louder... which sounds like what's happening to you.

hahahaha. thank you sir, for exactly the answer i was looking for. i oughta smack that other man, however.

i guess now i might as well justify my desire to smack him. it's not so much that your answer was a dumb one. but it was kinda the first thing i thought of. here's the deal with mixing though since apparently you're unaware. i can mix anything with anything at a low volume, it's about getting things cohesive and relative. proceed..

Uh, there's more than one solution to this problem, just turning the kicks down is one of them. Ableton gives you automation lanes, use them.

hey, turning down the poly on ableton's sampler did the trick. automating things won't help in this instance that's the same thing as telling me to turn it down. a very creative approach to it, thank you, but i got the answer i was looking for.

there's a very high skill curve, unfortunately, with producing. and that means sometimes i'm going to get frustrated because people assume i know nothing. that's why i find it hard to give advice personally. i don't like to assume that the person knows nothing, and tell them my idea, when they might already have an idea that's better than mine. i'd rather observe and gather some facts. or approach it with tact. instead of saying "turn them down" or "ableton has automation lanes you know?"