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so im looking into creating dubstep, and im gunna be using a macbook pro 13 inch, maschine, traktor, access virus ti keyboard synth and some audiocubes, now im just wondering how i can plug all of these into the laptop bacause i dont think all will fit, and also is this a good setup to start? ive been on different forums and told to learn more so here i am :) feel free to like "digital sequence" on facebook and as soon as i have some stuff made, ill upload it

o and with the macs, what is the difference between a 2.5GHz dual-core, a 2.9GHz dual-core, and 2.3GHz quad-core cause im still deciding which macbook to get

You need an audio interface with multiple I/O

any you would recommend, im a beginner at this

Focusrite are pretty nice mid level ones. Sorta like the audio interface equivalent to krk's.

lol, holy shit dude, how much is this set up costing you? If money is no object I'd look into maybe a MOTU interface. I love my 828 MKII...wish I would have had the cash for an MK3

digital sequence wrote:o and with the macs, what is the difference between a 2.5GHz dual-core, a 2.9GHz dual-core, and 2.3GHz quad-core cause im still deciding which macbook to get

Really?

i already like these thread better, everyone just told me to google on the last one! haha but basicaly i saw excision on the x tour and missed the executioner, but ever since ive been interested in making dubstep, im only 15 so bare with me, but im looking to make noises or whatever such as him and ive seen he uses alot of what im looking at, and at the end of this process i will have the virus ti desktop synth for $2360 but thats the last ill probably buy, then ill get cubase as a daw cause ive heard its pretty nice, thats 500 but ive also debated NI Massice ultimate i believe its called, my first piece after the laptop and daw will be maschine which is 700, and ill probably throw in the traktor pro although ive heard its not to great for dubstep? and then some audiocubes for visual effect, all in all itll be about 7000 but im not starting with it all at once, haha now that a you guys have got the whole backstory from me, please through in any opionions or help, such as if you think im wasting my money with some of the equipment, but i really wanna make a career out of this :) and yes really to asking about the specs of the laptop, because im not looking to spend 2 grand on the quad core if its not something ill need

fragments wrote:lol, holy shit dude, how much is this set up costing you? If money is no object I'd look into maybe a MOTU interface. I love my 828 MKII...wish I would have had the cash for an MK3

Been saving for a track 16 myself

I run a 2.8 ghz dual core i7 macbook pro and can tell you this even struggles with big projects.Obviously you have robbed a bank or something so just buy a mac pro 12 core beast with all the trimmings,might set you back more than 10k but you get all the connections you will need and the built in AI will have you sounding like skrillcision in no time.I've heard on mac rumours it listens the style you want and half makes a decent tune for you as a starting point.Some futuristic shit right there!

fragments wrote:. I love my 828 MKII...wish I would have had the cash for an MK3

I have the mk11 as well,firewire version!!!

lloydy wrote:I run a 2.8 ghz dual core i7 macbook pro and can tell you this even struggles with big projects.Obviously you have robbed a bank or something so just buy a mac pro 12 core beast with all the trimmings,might set you back more than 10k but you get all the connections you will need and the built in AI will have you sounding like skrillcision in no time.I've heard on mac rumours it listens the style you want and half makes a decent tune for you as a starting point.Some futuristic shit right there!

hahah i didnt rob a bank;) i got 8 grand from a brain surgery settlement and im gunna slowly build onto this, so are the cores are how well it runs? haha i feel stupid asking that but hey i dont know! haha and a 12 core? that sounds huge compared to the 2.8

Lol,yeah the cores are basically the processor chips.You don't need 12 cores i was being sarcastic,well saying that depends on how big your projects get i suppose.My 2.8 dual core will run pretty big projects with a lot of plugins but does start getting a bit chocked up if i go to large so just make sure you learn how to bounce audio out and make sure it becomes a habit when writing tunes.
Just out of interest why are you thinking cubase and getting a mac.Cubase is pc as well so it would be much cheaper than going the mac route.If you do chose a mac logic pro is a very very good daw and mac only so a little thing for you to think about.
I believe machine,tractor are usb connections and the virus connects via usb,midi or audio.With the virus if you use the software you will need to connect via usb so make sure you comp you buy has a minimum of 3 usb ports which in all honesty is pretty much standard nowadays anyway.
I agree on the soundcard thing too,see if you buy something like motu 828 mk 3 usb then you will have more than enough audio ins and outs + midi connections so running all of the viruses ins and outs + midi wouldn't be a problem.Maybe a little overkill for someone starting out but if you have the cash they are pretty cheap and it means you might not need to upgrade in the future if you build a bigger rig.
Just some ideas for you and sorry about the sarcasm i've had fuck all sleep so couldn't resist.
Good luck

lloydy wrote:

fragments wrote:. I love my 828 MKII...wish I would have had the cash for an MK3

I have the mk11 as well,firewire version!!!

Yea. I have the firewire as well. One of the best 250 dollars I ever spent on my studio. Even with 8 audio I/Os I could use more lloyd, if you are running a lot of signal in and out of yours consider looking into a patchbay.

fragments wrote: if you are running a lot of signal in and out of yours consider looking into a patchbay.

Yeah i have a patchbay,when i first started to build i had an mpc,z8 and the virus so pretty much used most of the ins and outs.Sold it all so now just running my virus and pretty much completely ITB so no need.Will start adding outboard stuff eventually but more for sound colouring and stuff,I think most of my writing will always be ITB because i'm comfortable with it.
Just want hardware compressor,pre amp and maybe look for some old valve equipment.To be honest once i get some cash together and actually start raising my output i will start looking but pretty happy ITB at the mo.

lloydy wrote:Lol,yeah the cores are basically the processor chips.You don't need 12 cores i was being sarcastic,well saying that depends on how big your projects get i suppose.My 2.8 dual core will run pretty big projects with a lot of plugins but does start getting a bit chocked up if i go to large so just make sure you learn how to bounce audio out and make sure it becomes a habit when writing tunes.
Just out of interest why are you thinking cubase and getting a mac.Cubase is pc as well so it would be much cheaper than going the mac route.If you do chose a mac logic pro is a very very good daw and mac only so a little thing for you to think about.
I believe machine,tractor are usb connections and the virus connects via usb,midi or audio.With the virus if you use the software you will need to connect via usb so make sure you comp you buy has a minimum of 3 usb ports which in all honesty is pretty much standard nowadays anyway.
I agree on the soundcard thing too,see if you buy something like motu 828 mk 3 usb then you will have more than enough audio ins and outs + midi connections so running all of the viruses ins and outs + midi wouldn't be a problem.Maybe a little overkill for someone starting out but if you have the cash they are pretty cheap and it means you might not need to upgrade in the future if you build a bigger rig.
Just some ideas for you and sorry about the sarcasm i've had fuck all sleep so couldn't resist.
Good luck

i did look at logic pro but didnt think about cubase for pc, would it work for mac? i also checked out NI massive ultimate and all but should i go with a different laptop then or just go for pro 9? they all look nice haha i didnt concider that they may not work though!! haha these boards are way better than NI ones those guys were not helpful

NI komplete, not massive my bad

One mans steak is another mans hamburger!!!
See people on here who are hardened cubase users will say cubase,i'm a 10 year+vet on logic pro.Started on 7 and moved up.I can honestly tell you that logic has all the tools you need to make tunes but you will need to add some at a later date.
If i had 8k to bun i would buy a mac book pro with komplete ultimate and logic pro.That will set you back around 4k,LEARN LOGIC FIRST!!!!!!then start learning each of kompletes programmes one at a time without starting with reaktor.Honestly leave reaktor till last unless you want one serious learning curve.
Once you are getting decent feedback from your tunes from using the stuff you bought then start thinking about adding other bits to your studio.I mean if you want to dj buy the software or decks and learn,it is no biggy not like music production unless you want to be like DJ craze then you will have your work cut out.
I wouldn't skrimp on a mac if i was you,just buy the best you can.Make sure you have 8gig of ram with a fairly decent hd built in and buy a decent external one too as it will help the machine run a bit better.
To be honest if you have absolutely no experience whatsoever by the time your getting decent feedback on your tunes you might be able to use the other 4k on your first car lol

Just learn learn learn learn learn,it's not the gear at the end of the day it's the user that defines the art so......
It won't be easy and will not be a 5 min wonder.Some people on here have been at it for a long long time,your only 15 so think about music tech college if you are serious about making it a career.
Also learning music theory will help you a lot,for me its a must.To prove my point just go into the dubs board and listen to the first page,you will easily be able to pick the people who know some music theory and the people that don't.

i have 2 cars cause the accident was caused by my step brother and my parents gave me his cars after he put me in the hospital, but anyway the komplete will work on a mac? and why use 2 daws? just for more sounds? and with logic is it easy to figure out and make sweet stuff because right now im on my toshiba using fls and its not giving me the intensity i want but thats probably from my inexpirience? haha and what is reacktor? my biggest concern is spending the money and not figuring it all out. thanks for the help by the way! ive had plenty of XP with shit like guitar, bass, and electric drums cause ive been playing those for about 6 years, and i may add them into my preformance to be unique;) and with all this equipment, im also working on setting up a metal band "global Genocide" and would these help me in anyway for that?