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when u buy a tune do u ask permission before playing out?

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2007 11:45 pm
by theonelikepaul
when u buy a tune, do u ask artist permission before playing it out in a club, or including it in an online mix?

Theres always that text line on the center innit, 'all rights reserved, public performance / distribution prohibited'.

I'm about to start playin out with tunes I've bought, but where do I stand in this respect, whats the general consensus.

peace..

Re: when u buy a tune do u ask permission before playing out

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:00 am
by dubstepper360
theonelikepaul wrote:when u buy a tune, do u ask artist permission before playing it out in a club, or including it in an online mix?

Theres always that text line on the center innit, 'all rights reserved, public performance / distribution prohibited'.

I'm about to start playin out with tunes I've bought, but where do I stand in this respect, whats the general consensus.

peace..
ive always wanted to know this aswell

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:03 am
by thc
if they dont want people playin it, then they shouldnt have released it

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:07 am
by ozols man
course u can play it out! no one gives a shit :lol:

i never understood why they actually put that on though, who buys a vinyl without the intention of djing with it in this day and age?

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:19 am
by citizen
*cues image of Dubstep Licensing Taskforce busting into a party, handcuffing DJ and taking him away for "questioning"*

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:31 am
by atealtha
I always though Dub Police was a bit too strong about this "ya have a license for dem dubs?" But maybe they're just trying to be funny?

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 1:37 am
by sines
Atealtha wrote:I always though Dub Police was a bit too strong about this "ya have a license for dem dubs?" But maybe they're just trying to be funny?
bare jokes innit.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:33 am
by abZ
What a silly question. You seriously don't know the answer to that one?

When I get 'em for free (320) I ask tho.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:54 am
by cede
When you buy a song outright you generally have the right to play it out at a gig or in a mix that you are giving out for free. That text for the most part tends to be for radio and airplay - where things need to be cleared before playing - this does not exactly apply for pirate radio type stations though.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:44 am
by flippo
another related question would be, do any DJ's report their playlists to the clubs so that the royaltie fees the venues pay end up going to relevant artists?

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 6:46 am
by cede
That would all depend on the type of club. There are a lot of clubs that do not pay royalties because they operate under the rader, or deal with less commercial forms of music.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 7:12 am
by d man
OMG are u really serious!!!!! am i awake and reading this question properly?

would u ask 50 cent personally to play his tunes in a club? NO, the same applies here, and the legal shit on the labels is for the likes of big time record companies putting the tune on mix cds i.e a ministry of sound dubstep cd

anyway


lol

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:04 am
by nospin
"kode9, can i pleeeese play '9 Samurai' at this party i'm playing next weekend?"

"hmmm... nah"

"pretty please?"

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:27 am
by skrewface
Im gonna have my girl tattoo a text saying "all rights reserved Skrewface"

ASK before you touch

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:46 am
by gravious
fliPPo wrote:another related question would be, do any DJ's report their playlists to the clubs so that the royaltie fees the venues pay end up going to relevant artists?
In theory I'm pretty sure you are supposed to. And the venues should be registered with the relevant royalties collecting bodies. In practice I think this very rarely happens however. I've certainly never come across anyone whose had to do this.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:48 am
by d-miz3
Citizen wrote:*cues image of Dubstep Licensing Taskforce busting into a party, handcuffing DJ and taking him away for "questioning"*
:lol:

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:36 am
by theonelikepaul
Ok. Thanks for the responses.

Lets kill this thread now... clearly I can do whatever..

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 9:44 am
by sand leaper
theonelikepaul wrote:Ok I can understand playing out in clubs no one minds..

but re online mixes:

Does generally no one mind their tunes being included in mixes held on this forum, or on DJ's websites etc... ??
As long as the tunes are acquired legally and the mixes aren't charged for, I don't see why this would be a problem. It's just free promotion at that point anyway.

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:21 pm
by ufo over easy
ozols man wrote: i never understood why they actually put that on though, who buys a vinyl without the intention of djing with it in this day and age?
me :D

but of course you're allowed to DJ records you've bought - the all rights reserved thing is just so the label won't get screwed over if the music gets used on TV or in big name mix CDs :)

Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 12:33 pm
by surr
When I organised a drum&bass party some time ago in Belgium, I (in my role of organiser) had to pay the Sabam (i.e. the Belgian Society of Authors, Composers and Publishers) and provide them with the playlist of every DJ. The DJ's didn't have to pay for anything.

Also, as Sand Leaper said, make sure that all your tunes are acquired legally. I've heard many stories of guys being busted for playing illegal mp3's using e.g. Serato Scratch