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Posted: **Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:09 am**

I've been lurking this site for quite a few weeks now, so yeah i know what to expect

Hey guys, i'm inavon, I'm new to the world of producing.
I'm not going to, " OMG GUYS TEACH ME HOW TO MAKE WOBBLE AND VOWEL BASSES " even tho, i do like dubstep...

I want to start off from the basics and the roots of the genre, basing my production on swingy halftime drums and a massive sub bass, can any of you guys kind of introduce me to how i should be getting around all this?

TL:DR
It's not that long, read it! :O!

Posted: **Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:10 am**

Before we begin;

Have you read the Production bible all the way through and used the search?

Posted: **Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:13 am**

These might help for your questions re; halftime drums & sub bass

Sub Bass Tutorial - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fFVCpumgX8

Swingy halftime drums tutorial - http://audio.tutsplus.com/tutorials/sou ... the-drums/

Swingy 2step drums tutorial - http://www.futuregarageforum.com/viewto ... =11&t=6428

Posted: **Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:15 am**

wub wrote:Before we begin;

Have you read the Production bible all the way through and used the search?

I have used the search, i have a basic knowledge which i got using the search.
I've read part of the production bible, but since you think it's so important it's reading time

Thanks for the supplied links mate

Posted: **Fri Mar 29, 2013 11:01 am**

Okay, i used the links you provided to add a drumline to the building blocks of my first track,
https://soundcloud.com/inavon-media/wha ... irst-track

After that point, i want to start the build-up and get a crescendo going, say i manage to do that, what more can i add to it?
Thanks guys.

Posted: **Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:19 pm**

There was a thread recently where someone asked about track structures and how people dont get stuck:
http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.p ... &p=3327567

I posted this:

mthrfnk wrote:My basic tips:
1)Start with a 4 chord structure, then expand it to 8 - change up the last few chords on the second round. Think outsie the box with the chords, using a keyboard helps with this - honestly I just play what sounds good/right and flesh the chords out from there (adding upper and lower octave notes)
2)Give the chords some rhythm, even it's just basic 4x4 chops
3)Write a lead/melody over the top using the same notes from (or notes in key with) your chords, again give them rhythym and humanize them - no one wants to listen to a straight set of bar long notes.
4)Write your bassline, it could be as simple as the bottom notes from your chords - and then again give it rhythym/chop up the notes.
5)Now compile this into a decent structure, try not to have to much at once and aim to get everything complimenting everything - so don't just layer a shit ton of synths playing a shit ton of notes.

On structure, I still play it pretty safe - intro/build/main/break/build/main with variation/break/outro and I like to vary the synths and instruments throughout this e.g. intro the song with piano, build using an arp, have the main with some chunky synths/bass, breakdown to piano/choir/strings and build again etc...

Personally I like to work in piano or basic saw sounds before expanding out into different sounds - it helps me to focus on the actual musical aspect rather than thinking about how fucking uber filthy my bass is going to be

That might help you idk? I tend to work out a lot of musical/structure bits bfore then adding in drums, sounds like you do the opposite though.

Posted: **Fri Mar 29, 2013 1:06 pm**

Thanks, i tend to base the main melody and sub around my drums so i find it to be a better workflow

I checked that thread out, some useful advice too, thanks!

Posted: **Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:00 pm**

but drums are some what monotonic, so your sub/bass will be to unless it interacts with your melody on some structural level

Posted: **Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:16 pm**

Just put some drums in then put some sub in then have some fun.

Posted: **Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:39 pm**

hutyluty wrote:Just put some drums in then put some sub in then have some fun.

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:04 am**

lloydy wrote:
hutyluty wrote:Just put some drums in then put some sub in then have some fun.

Yeah

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:26 pm**

Honestly, the most direct route to learning how to produce EDM or any other music is to simply 1. Pick a DAW (the program you use when producing) 2. Ask your friend Google to find you some basic reading material on synthesis and anything else you have a question about.(compressors, EQing, busing, etc) 3. Get ahold of some proper samples or loops for your drums. 4. This is last and most important step: Put in the hours and practice/experiment.

I dont mean that in a sarcastic way at all. It takes a whole lot of time to get even half way decent at producing. And you mite as well start learning the basics from the start. Once you get the basic concept its all experimenting and trial nd error type shit. Try and answer your own questions, that will help you get a beeter understand of wtf is going on

Posted: **Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:47 pm**

Another good thing i used to do when learning kick and sub patterns is to get a reference track you like import it into you daw and get it in time with the arrange then just lay your hits out where they connect with the reference material.
Takes some time to get use to it but is a good way of helping you learn.
There is so much good info online covering the basics and the not so basic,just a case of looking.

Posted: **Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:37 pm**

the way i see it, there are two main aspects to producing EDM - the music (ie music theory and all that stuff) and the technology.

this first method will help you learn about music and creativity. if you already know all about music, then this might not do much for you, and instead you should focus on the technical aspect of using your daw and learning about fx and all of that stuff. the best method that I like to use is to listen to a song that you like, and pick out sounds that you like in particular. then try to reproduce these sounds on your DAW. they can be drum loops, chords, melodies, what have you.

if you feel confident in your music skills but want to improve on your technical skills, my favorite way to improve is to simply watch tutorials on youtube and if there are things you still can't figure out, ask people on dsf or anyone else you know that does music.

Posted: **Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:58 pm**

Hey, fellow noob ha

Posted: **Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:59 am**

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