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				non djs downloading rip's
				Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:54 pm
				by skrumpo
				do you fink this still harms the scene your views plz
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 7:58 pm
				by djrobyn
				for sure?! if you like the music - buy it.
and if you "only" hear the music, buy a cd or a compilation...
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:56 pm
				by parson
				i don't think downloading stuff you can't afford hurts the scene
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:01 pm
				by sixdegrees
				Downloading Scene ripped Vinyl was my path into dubstep in 2005! Had to be Scene rips like XXXX etc because all others were shitty radio rips! i now more than contribute to the scene, last month i spent about 70 quid on vinyl and i am more than happy to.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:04 pm
				by south3rn
				Parson wrote:i don't think downloading stuff you can't afford hurts the scene
i agree. although i buy what i can afford and just wish i could afford the rest and leave it at that.
but if you're not gonna buy it period, i don't see the harm. i think most of the blame should be put on the rippers/sharers, not the downloaders.
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:14 pm
				by bob crunkhouse
				djrobyn wrote:for sure?! if you like the music - buy it.
and if you "only" hear the music, buy a cd or a compilation...
yeh, but its not that simple, if labels dont make an effort to release on any other format apart from vinyl then how can you blame people for downloading rips?
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:21 pm
				by jim
				Because you can buy a turntable amp and speakers for a reasonable price.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:24 pm
				by south3rn
				jim wrote:Because you can buy a turntable amp and speakers for a reasonable price.
if you don't have $12 for a record, what makes you think someone would have $200 for a setup?
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:31 pm
				by jim
				I don't know where you live but that's not even a lot of money for someone on the giro.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:33 pm
				by south3rn
				well i know for a lot of people groceries are more of a priority than music.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:41 pm
				by efa
				S'all about pasta if things are that bad =]
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:45 pm
				by deapoh
				I think it defnately affects Mp3 and Wav downloading facilities but does get the music exposed and as people mentioned above have made them start buying the records.
Good point, the blame should be pointed at the rippers rather than downloaders. I'm not sure how many people can actually say they have NEVER EVER downloaded a song before from the internet that they legally should have bought. Please prove me wrong though if there is anyone out there!
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 9:48 pm
				by south3rn
				Deapoh wrote:I think it defnately affects Mp3 and Wav downloading facilities but does get the music exposed and as people mentioned above have made them start buying the records.
Good point, the blame should be pointed at the rippers rather than downloaders. I'm not sure how many people can actually say they have NEVER EVER downloaded a song before from the internet that they legally should have bought. Please prove me wrong though if there is anyone out there!
i also think that anyone who doesn't wanna pay for tunes should probably stick to downloading radio mixes/free studio mixes, which is why i love barefiles  
 
 
definitely a great alternative for the poverty stricken
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:05 pm
				by bob crunkhouse
				jim wrote:Because you can buy a turntable amp and speakers for a reasonable price.
are u fucking serious?
u expect people to buy turntables, amps and everythng else so they can record vinyls into there computer to then put into there itunes or there ipod??!?!?!?
i know plenty of fans of dubstep who arent dj's, there regular buyers of music on cd and mp3, yet they cant get any of the tunes i show them unless they buy the vinyls! thats the one completely backwards thing about dubstep if u ask me, fans of music not being able to support the artists and labels they love 
 
   
   
   
  
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 10:42 pm
				by relaks
				South3rn wrote:Parson wrote:i don't think downloading stuff you can't afford hurts the scene
i agree. although i buy what i can afford and just wish i could afford the rest and leave it at that.
but if you're not gonna buy it period, i don't see the harm. i think most of the blame should be put on the rippers/sharers, not the downloaders.
 
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:08 pm
				by ashley
				Providing the downloads come from a legit source where the artist is getting a fair portion of the proceeds back is ok.
As for p2p applications - fuck em, if you find em, give them something to cry for...
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:11 pm
				by ufo over easy
				South3rn wrote:well i know for a lot of people groceries are more of a priority than music.
what about TVs and beer?
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:12 pm
				by deapoh
				UFO over easy wrote:South3rn wrote:well i know for a lot of people groceries are more of a priority than music.
what about TVs and beer?
 
Ben that stuff is way more important than having food, c'mon thats second nature!
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:16 pm
				by south3rn
				Deapoh wrote:UFO over easy wrote:South3rn wrote:well i know for a lot of people groceries are more of a priority than music.
what about TVs and beer?
 
Ben that stuff is way more important than having food, c'mon thats second nature!
 
this man knows.
 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2007 11:22 pm
				by ufo over easy
				Deapoh wrote:UFO over easy wrote:South3rn wrote:well i know for a lot of people groceries are more of a priority than music.
what about TVs and beer?
 
Ben that stuff is way more important than having food, c'mon thats second nature!
 
