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Making room for all those melodies?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:57 pm
by ShrapnelDubstep
Soundcloud

So as you can see on this track there are a ton of different melodies going on and they sound really.. Uplifting, I really like them, and when I try to do similar it doesn't work out all that well, I've tried a ton of different methods but I just can't get them to work together, any tips/advice? Thanks

I know this probably isn't dubstep but y'know, I was hoping to make some melody filled tunes like this, thanks again.

Re: Making room for all those melodies?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:00 pm
by wub
Practice, maybe read a book on music theory, then practice some more.

Google "Dummies Guide To Music Theory" and one of the first few links will probably be a filesharing site, not that I'm advocating the theft of intellectual property.

Re: Making room for all those melodies?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:04 pm
by Triphosphate
When I first read the OP I thought it was your track as and example and said to myself "That's pretty freaking good, whats the problem?" LOL

Re: Making room for all those melodies?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:20 pm
by Add9
Well in that track, all the melodies are made from the same pentatonic scale so naturally they sound good together. It's kind of a basic thing to point out, but if you try to combine melodies that come from different scales, they might not always work together.

Also from what I noticed in that track is that there is always one melody that is the "king" melody and the other ones are lower in volume and in the background. So use volume and eq to your advantage to make sure all your melodies aren't clashing and that one of them is clearly the focus.

Re: Making room for all those melodies?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:34 pm
by SloppySeconds
Learn music, producers are usually musicians.. i hate kids that think they can become the next skrillex from torrenting fruity and pissing notes on the piano roll hoping it'l sound good... piss off

Re: Making room for all those melodies?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 3:41 pm
by mtl6
music is kinda about math and fractions. so if you want a bunch of melodies to work together you have to keep that in mind. one of the melodies is looping 2 times every bar, one of the melodies is looping once every two bars, and then there are random incidentals that help aid the story development of the melody. every 8 bars the filters on the synths open up a bit more. half way through the build up the synth hits some new higher notes that sound like they are taking us somewhere new. keep in mind all the noises in the background... not just the white noise but also the pads, tones, etc.

Re: Making room for all those melodies?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:16 pm
by drake89
taek a chord progression, a few chords that sound good to you. Then voice them. Say your first chord was A minor, thats ACE. Now, you can invert the chord and play E in the bass A in the middle and C in the highest voice (soprano) if you'd like. Take that idea and run with it. Or you can take the same loop of a chord progression and put a delay on it, I like 3/8 for this purpose, and bam you've got automatic harmony. That's just an easy way of doing what the above was describing, you can have the same thing basically going on, but use loops of different lengths and it can sound more complex than it actually is.

Re: Making room for all those melodies?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 4:28 pm
by Brothulhu
SloppySeconds wrote:Learn music, producers are usually musicians.. i hate kids that think they can become the next skrillex from torrenting fruity and pissing notes on the piano roll hoping it'l sound good... piss off
I'm shite at music theory I use a chord progression info graphic I downloaded a while ago for everything :oops:

Oh well at least my copy of FL is legit

Re: Making room for all those melodies?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:02 pm
by ShrapnelDubstep
SloppySeconds wrote:Learn music, producers are usually musicians.. i hate kids that think they can become the next skrillex from torrenting fruity and pissing notes on the piano roll hoping it'l sound good... piss off
And I hate pathetic, immature, ignorant people like you.

I'm not a "Kid"
I don't own a copy of FL studio,
I have a legitemate copy of Ableton Live, I've never learned to play any instruments I just enjoy making music, and now I am trying to learn, and due to your absolute lack of being able to accept that people out there want to make music that aren't 40 years old and had a lifetime of musical experience, people like me who is just starting out have trouble learning.

Go fuck yourself.

Re: Making room for all those melodies?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:10 pm
by titchbit
Proper gain staging and EQ'ing are necesssary when multiple parts are playing at once. Try to filter out unnecessary frequencies in a parametric EQ to prevent different parts from clashing together.

Re: Making room for all those melodies?

Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:14 pm
by wub
ShrapnelDubstep wrote:Go fuck yourself.

Charming way to start in Production :roll: