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So I was dicking around with Vocoders on reese-style basses for the first time (honestly I'm shocked I never tried this earlier) and, while I was able to get an ok "vocalness" with TAL-Vocoder I was surprised by how "tinny" the sound was (it seemed to lack any kind of low or high end tbh, only mid). So, anyone know any other free (or cheap) Vocoder VSTs that perhaps would be better suited for this kind of stuff (or if I'm just derping up and it's my fault I can't get a decent tone with TAL could anyone perhaps help me with that? )

FatScout wrote:So I was dicking around with Vocoders on reese-style basses for the first time (honestly I'm shocked I never tried this earlier) and, while I was able to get an ok "vocalness" with TAL-Vocoder I was surprised by how "tinny" the sound was (it seemed to lack any kind of low or high end tbh, only mid). So, anyone know any other free (or cheap) Vocoder VSTs that perhaps would be better suited for this kind of stuff (or if I'm just derping up and it's my fault I can't get a decent tone with TAL could anyone perhaps help me with that? )

The tonal qualities can be fixed.
Overdrive the high end and low end. Not with one OD, with seperate ones.
That way you get your tones out, saturate the mix to bring the level up, compress it, or vice versa, whichever sounds better to you, put and EQ and make tiny little 1+/- dB changes. Boosting isn't reccommended for vocoding. Leaves nasty artifacts.

But theres no vocoder that will be any different. A lot of it relies on your sample. Add lots of overdrive, compression, highband freqs, and limiting to your vocal sample.
The way a vocoder works is it places the sound of your synth to the sound of the sample. So if the sample is mushy shit that isn't crisp and high, then your sounds will sound like that.

Ableton live 9 has a vocoder in it.

Fruity loops vocodex

i only like ableton vocoder, vocodex, fruity vocoder and TAL vocoder.
although i don't like using compressors i find compression/multiband compression helps a lot when using vocoders since the levels get a bit random + the sound loses impact.

sunny_b_uk wrote:i only like ableton vocoder, vocodex, fruity vocoder and TAL vocoder.
although i don't like using compressors i find compression/multiband compression helps a lot when using vocoders since the levels get a bit random + the sound loses impact.

Well way to necro brah, but yeah I guess this is true. Honestly I just use TAL-Vocoder + multinand comp & distortion to get the levels back and it sounds fine.