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A tip to help prevent phasing between your kick and your sub

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:06 am
by ChadDub
I use FL so I don't know if any other daw can do this but what I've found out is if I take my kick and go to it's mixer track and invert it's polarity, it stops the phasing between the kick and the sub when they both play at the same time. What reversing the kick's polarity does is it makes it so that when the kick plays, it cancels out whatever frequencies the kick is taking up. This really helps out even if you know how to to EQ your kick and sub around eachother. Just try it out.

Re: A tip to help prevent phasing between your kick and your

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:18 pm
by test_recordings
I think there's definitely plug ins for that, interesting alternative to side chaining though!

Re: A tip to help prevent phasing between your kick and your

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 1:31 pm
by AxeD
This is one of the first things you learn as a mixing engineer.
I actually just switch between inverted and regular on al mics (channels) and compare what sounds best.

Although that was something I did regularly on the SSL, sadly I can't always mix on that desk :lol:

Re: A tip to help prevent phasing between your kick and your

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:39 pm
by Icetickle
whut

Anyone knows how to do dis in ableton?

Re: A tip to help prevent phasing between your kick and your

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 6:50 pm
by mthrfnk
Just because you invert the phase it doesn't mean you're negating phasing effects... or am I missing something?

Re: A tip to help prevent phasing between your kick and your

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 7:21 pm
by zosomagik
Icetickle wrote:whut

Anyone knows how to do dis in ableton?
In the utility plugin at the bottom there's two buttons that say Phz-L and Phz-R, if you click them it inverts the waveform.

Re: A tip to help prevent phasing between your kick and your

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:25 pm
by AxeD
mthrfnk wrote:Just because you invert the phase it doesn't mean you're negating phasing effects... or am I missing something?
Definitely not, no.

Re: A tip to help prevent phasing between your kick and your

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 7:43 am
by outbound
AxeD wrote:
mthrfnk wrote:Just because you invert the phase it doesn't mean you're negating phasing effects... or am I missing something?
Definitely not, no.
It all depends on the source samples, I will invert polarity on sub and different kick samples and see what combo works best. Flipping polarity doesn't always help (if it's already in phase then you'd just be switching it out of phase) but it's something worth keeping in mind especially in the low end.