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I pretty much only use massive as my synth, and I can get just about any sound I want out of it, but I can never good get sounds that you'd use in an intro or a breakdown, like chords and non-bassy leads.

Everytime I go to try to create some sort of lead for a beginning of a tune, it always ends up sounding like a super shitty and typical super saw.

I cannot for the life of me create epic leads or chords, like in this song:



The lead/pad in the intro, and then in drop that 1:37 and 1:43, so on

That one sounds terrible IMO and the mixing on that song overall is just awful

thanks for the help man

Sounds like something vintage. Maybe Massive is the problem? Not sure, not used it enough to comment on it.

The pad sound itself is very animated, lots of sweeping filtering and really rich detuned waveforms oscillating nicely. Sounds like the same pad, layered twice, with two bandpass or notch filters sweeping in opposite directions in opposite times, with another lowpass filter at the end opening up slowly. The ocsillators sound like detuned saws to me, but could also be squares mixed in. Loads of Phasing, get a good phaser or flanger effect on it.

Basically, nice big wide pads needs lots of stereo movement and some tasteful reverb or delay, with some filter automation either via envelopes or lfo's.

Use square waves and automate the phase for a nice pulsing, wavey sound.

Don't just turn to detuned saw waves every time!

karmacazee wrote:Sounds like something vintage. Maybe Massive is the problem? Not sure, not used it enough to comment on it.

The pad sound itself is very animated, lots of sweeping filtering and really rich detuned waveforms oscillating nicely. Sounds like the same pad, layered twice, with two bandpass or notch filters sweeping in opposite directions in opposite times, with another lowpass filter at the end opening up slowly. The ocsillators sound like detuned saws to me, but could also be squares mixed in. Loads of Phasing, get a good phaser or flanger effect on it.

Basically, nice big wide pads needs lots of stereo movement and some tasteful reverb or delay, with some filter automation either via envelopes or lfo's.

Use square waves and automate the phase for a nice pulsing, wavey sound.

Don't just turn to detuned saw waves every time!

Did you hear about something called a phaser?

^ this guy has such a shit attitude :/

He happened to mention using a phaser in his post, but I doubt you read his post thoroughly enough to catch that.

I think he was being sarcastic m8

Yes, he was being sarcastic -- precisely why I pointed out his shit attitude that he brings to countless threads.

Tried layering your synth with real noises? or adding some tape/vinyl type type emulation
Massives not the best for chord type stuff imo