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'live' sets that aren't really live

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 8:43 am
by wub
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Laptop & Launchpad do not a live set make.

Shame really as I quite like Shaanxi's music;

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But even contrasting with Egyptian Lover's 808 and vinyl set, this just seems a bit of a lacklustre setup. I understand it can't be all Four Tet/Kareen in terms of full on live randomness, but...meh.


TL/DR - Triggering loops is not a live set.

Re: 'live' sets that aren't really live

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:10 am
by Riddles
Completely agree, and to be honest, I'm yet to see a live set that I've enjoyed more than a DJ set.

I'd like to see a Shackleton one though.

Re: 'live' sets that aren't really live

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:16 am
by wub
I enjoyed Pinch & Sherwood live more than I've enjoyed a Pinch DJ set in a long time.

Re: 'live' sets that aren't really live

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:59 am
by Riddles
didn't realise they did a live set, what was it like?

Re: 'live' sets that aren't really live

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 10:40 am
by wub
Riddles wrote:didn't realise they did a live set, what was it like?

Pinch on live percussion, keys (I think), and drums (via computer, not an actual drum kit)
Sherwood layering vocals from his mahoosive acapella collection, then real time dubbing/delays/echoes via a mixing desk

Re: 'live' sets that aren't really live

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 11:00 am
by Marcus
Riddles wrote:Completely agree, and to be honest, I'm yet to see a live set that I've enjoyed more than a DJ set.

I'd like to see a Shackleton one though.
If you ever get a chance to see him do it, his sets are on another level.

Re: 'live' sets that aren't really live

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 12:48 pm
by f1rstsense
One of my life goals is to attend to his set @ Burning Man, he is brilliant.

[this might be off tho, I'm not sure if its a regular or live set tho, i guess its regular, coz last time he did a 6hours one] but still...

Re: 'live' sets that aren't really live

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 12:53 pm
by wub
Just so we're clear, I'm not shitting on DJ sets, nor I am suggesting live sets with hardware are in any way superior (they're just different)


But what I am opposed to is loop triggering masquerading as a live show.

Re: 'live' sets that aren't really live

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 3:47 pm
by nameless133
I always wondered how Magnetic Man is a live act. :D

Re: 'live' sets that aren't really live

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 4:05 pm
by wub
At least they have a vocalist.

Re: 'live' sets that aren't really live

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 4:47 pm
by AxeD
I only consider it live, when the artist creates the music on the spot.
People just got confused when DJs started playing sets without cd players or turntables.

Not saying any other ways are necessarily bad or something.

Re: 'live' sets that aren't really live

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 7:25 pm
by webstarr
^^ Agreed

UR live were incredible. Live sax player is something I wasn't expecting

Re: 'live' sets that aren't really live

Posted: Fri Nov 29, 2013 9:05 pm
by mks
Welcome to the modern world.

The laptop and controller thing has been happening for at least a decade now.

Re: 'live' sets that aren't really live

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 12:57 am
by kaili
DOLGAP wrote:I always wondered how Magnetic Man is a live act. :D
surprisingly good
but i was wired of my tits so tbh it couldve been anything

Re: 'live' sets that aren't really live

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:22 am
by AxeD
webstarr wrote:^^ Agreed

UR live were incredible. Live sax player is something I wasn't expecting
Saw them as well. Didn't like the music one bit, but it was live that's for sure.

Re: 'live' sets that aren't really live

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 2:42 am
by mks
I've seen groups make it too live. As in you really like their electronic music, you go to see their live show and they bring out a whole band in order to make it more "live". More often than not it sucks.

As far as the laptop and a controller thing and playing their own music, when people are performing like that it is not really DJ'ing either. Is there going to be a new "semi-live" or "not quite all the way live" category to promote?


Re: 'live' sets that aren't really live

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 5:44 am
by zosomagik
M4SONIC and kill paris kill it with a launchpad. I dont know how they do the stuff they do with those "pads" theyre more like buttons.

Re: 'live' sets that aren't really live

Posted: Sat Nov 30, 2013 8:25 am
by wub
zosomagik wrote:M4SONIC and kill paris kill it with a launchpad. I dont know how they do the stuff they do with those "pads" theyre more like buttons.

No idea who those people are :?


The issue I have with Launchpads is that it comes across as a bit Guitar Hero...push the buttons in the right order at the right time to get a high score etc.

Re: 'live' sets that aren't really live

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:15 am
by RmoniK
How is a laptop + midi controller not more "open" than a DJ set? While some people might not utilize them, the possibilities are endless.

Re: 'live' sets that aren't really live

Posted: Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:23 am
by Sexual_Chocolate
whats your opinon on someone using an sp404 as a "live" set