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£1000 fine for not registering to vote

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 9:56 am
by Hibbie
Why?
I have left the register of electors form this year cause I just can't be arsed to do anything with it considering I wont be voting, I just don't see much point.
Had one of those canvassers come knocking about 30 minutes ago but they woke me up so I was like nah go away.
So is anyone else in this position?
Just seems a but mad that in a democratic society we could be fined for not registering to vote??
Also I pay council taxes so they already know who lives at this address.

Re: £1000 fine for not registering to vote

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:02 am
by DiegoSapiens
What!? if you dont vote in the uk you have to pay?! Thats crazy. Such democracy

Re: £1000 fine for not registering to vote

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:03 am
by Hibbie
No you have to register to vote, the fine is for not registering

Re: £1000 fine for not registering to vote

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:03 am
by wub
Tax the unwashed!

Re: £1000 fine for not registering to vote

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:05 am
by kidshuffle
1000 is a bit much, but tbh im all about fining those who aren't registered. Having those laws in places has created a larger voter turnout in some countries.

Re: £1000 fine for not registering to vote

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:20 am
by scspkr99
DiegoSapiens wrote:What!? if you dont vote in the uk you have to pay?! Thats crazy. Such democracy
That is the case in Australia and they always have boss governments

Re: £1000 fine for not registering to vote

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:23 am
by wub
Online voting needs to happen. If they could make it a free to use hack-proof app, voter turnout would go through the roof.



Hack-proof is the trickiest bit, of course.

Re: £1000 fine for not registering to vote

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:30 am
by nowaysj
unreal

Re: £1000 fine for not registering to vote

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:34 am
by Genevieve
kidshuffle wrote:1000 is a bit much, but tbh im all about fining those who aren't registered. Having those laws in places has created a larger voter turnout in some countries.
Extorting people into voting. How moral.

How about increasing the turnout by giving more attractive options?

Re: £1000 fine for not registering to vote

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:37 am
by nowaysj
Gathering consent for illegitimate gov's.

Re: £1000 fine for not registering to vote

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:39 am
by wub
Additional;

- If no party receives more than 50% of the public vote, the ballot is declared void and must be restocked with different candidates.

Re: £1000 fine for not registering to vote

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:42 am
by Genevieve
wub wrote:Additional;

- If no party receives more than 50% of the public vote, the ballot is declared void and must be restocked with different candidates.
Is that supposed to be better or worse? If no one receives more than 50% of the vote, people that opted for the second or third tier parties will then just vote for the top-tier parties again. Great way to keep the status quo in place.

This only increases 'strategic voting'.

Re: £1000 fine for not registering to vote

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:43 am
by Pedro Sánchez
wub wrote:Online voting needs to happen. If they could make it a free to use hack-proof app, voter turnout would go through the roof.



Hack-proof is the trickiest bit, of course.
It can never happen, it has to be done manually and overlooked by local volenteers in polling stations. Democracy in Britain is already flawed in my opinion, digital voting would bury it. Sitting there on a tablet submitting a vote after you have just read a smear campaign on the mail online would be a lot different to getting off your arse, lining up with your neighbours and locals and facing a real ballot box and that's before the whole issue of abuse it could be open to.

Re: £1000 fine for not registering to vote

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:46 am
by wub

Re: £1000 fine for not registering to vote

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:47 am
by nowaysj
Representation is necessary when communications and travel are slow. In our age, representation is becoming less necessary. More direct means of decision making need to be tried.

Re: £1000 fine for not registering to vote

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:48 am
by Hibbie
Just need some input for my original post, surely there are people on here that have not bothered with registering?

Re: £1000 fine for not registering to vote

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:49 am
by Laszlo
Is it possible to refuse to pay fines? Like, can you just say "No thanks your honour, i'll take prison time please"?

Re: £1000 fine for not registering to vote

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:50 am
by Pedro Sánchez
Hibbie wrote:Just need some input for my original post, surely there are people on here that have not bothered with registering?
Nah mate, as soon as that form come through my letterbox, it get filled in and sent back, it's just an auto money maker for the twats.

Re: £1000 fine for not registering to vote

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:50 am
by wub
Laszlo wrote:Is it possible to refuse to pay fines? Like, can you just say "No thanks your honour, i'll take prison time please"?
"No Vietcong ever called me ******"

Re: £1000 fine for not registering to vote

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 10:53 am
by Laszlo
Which reminds me...