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RASTABOT VOCODER
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 1:56 am
by Draastex
Ok so by now all of you have heard skrillex's recess album... well i am looking to recreate the vocoder effect thing that he uses on the ragga twins voice in Ragga Bomb. Need help i will also keep working towards the sound but any tips you guys got post them here!!!
Here is the track for reference:
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Re: RASTABOT VOCODER
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:38 pm
by bouncingfish
Not good at vocoding, but sounds like some distortion after the vocoder?
Use some carrier with lots of high end, FM maybe?
Re: RASTABOT VOCODER
Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 4:45 pm
by Draastex
bouncingfish wrote:Not good at vocoding, but sounds like some distortion after the vocoder?
Use some carrier with lots of high end, FM maybe?
hmmmmmm i will try that im pretty much stumped as of now tho....
Re: RASTABOT VOCODER
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 4:53 am
by OmegaMode
This was my stab at it lol I actually like it and Im gonna be turning it into a song soon! hopefully!
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Re: RASTABOT VOCODER
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 12:20 pm
by Banesy
This is all speculation but I think it is all a Melodyne formant trick. I only have played with the demo do I can't recreate it, but I remember getting that harsh robo sound by moving the formant levels pretty far from the original read.
Re: RASTABOT VOCODER
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 3:21 pm
by somepony
Banesy wrote:This is all speculation but I think it is all a Melodyne formant trick. I only have played with the demo do I can't recreate it, but I remember getting that harsh robo sound by moving the formant levels pretty far from the original read.
Yeah, like the tecnique he uses to re-pitch and change the notes of his chopped vocals right? ...
Re: RASTABOT VOCODER
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 11:02 pm
by OmegaMode
Sooo this right here is super close and I didn't use melodyne.. its ringmod with a granular effect then send it through a vocoder for added umph!
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Re: RASTABOT VOCODER
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:01 am
by Toolman4
Not to self promote, (and to my testament, I address that ragga bomb is my inspiration), the track in my sig does the "International" and other stunt that skrillex does with reggae vocals...Now mine aren't effected properly, but what I do, I think he does as a foundation and that is to harmonically layer different pitches/tones of the same sample. Take this further through an FX chain might yield and VERY close result, but I don't believe just one layer is used as the sound is still pretty full before the drop hits....
Re: RASTABOT VOCODER
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 4:03 pm
by bouncingfish
OmegaMode wrote:Sooo this right here is super close and I didn't use melodyne.. its ringmod with a granular effect then send it through a vocoder for added umph!
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You got really close. What granulizing plugin did you use (and what settings did you have in it), and what did you use as a vocoder carrier?
Re: RASTABOT VOCODER
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:34 am
by Banesy
Sorry that isn't close at all. Your sound sounds like a crappy vocoder. Check this one out. I made this in 5 seconds using Waves tune. It isn't exact because Melodyne has a better formant tool but this is pretty much all that it is. It is just a non-transparent autotuning effect.
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Re: RASTABOT VOCODER
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:41 am
by somepony
Banesy wrote:Sorry that isn't close at all. Your sound sounds like a crappy vocoder. Check this one out. I made this in 5 seconds using Waves tune. It isn't exact because Melodyne has a better formant tool but this is pretty much all that it is. It is just a non-transparent autotuning effect.
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Well, maybe if we combinate both techniques...
Re: RASTABOT VOCODER
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:55 am
by Banesy
Mmmmm no. This isn't a vocoder fx.
Re: RASTABOT VOCODER
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:35 am
by OmegaMode
Banesy wrote:Mmmmm no. This isn't a vocoder fx.
Yours mmmm no.
Mine doesn't use Vocoder actually.
THIS IS FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T OWN MELODYNE
Re: RASTABOT VOCODER
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:03 am
by Banesy
OmegaMode wrote:Sooo this right here is super close and I didn't use melodyne.. its ringmod with a granular effect then send it through a vocoder for added umph!
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Oops, my fault. I confused this guy with you.
Re: RASTABOT VOCODER
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:13 am
by OmegaMode
Banesy wrote:OmegaMode wrote:Sooo this right here is super close and I didn't use melodyne.. its ringmod with a granular effect then send it through a vocoder for added umph!
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Oops, my fault. I confused this guy with you.
LOL Okay would you like the project file you punk? Huh? Would that make it easier for you ? I tried a vocoder but what was shown here as my preview wasn't vocoded..I LIED(my bad) my mistake for
NOT using a
VOCODER on the sound that was previewed and still happening to get a better sound than what you showed us.
My argument here is over. Carry on silly man.
Re: RASTABOT VOCODER
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 10:22 pm
by somepony
OmegaMode wrote:Banesy wrote:OmegaMode wrote:Sooo this right here is super close and I didn't use melodyne.. its ringmod with a granular effect then send it through a vocoder for added umph!
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Oops, my fault. I confused this guy with you.
LOL Okay would you like the project file you punk? Huh? Would that make it easier for you ? I tried a vocoder but what was shown here as my preview wasn't vocoded..I LIED(my bad) my mistake for
NOT using a
VOCODER on the sound that was previewed and still happening to get a better sound than what you showed us.
WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING?!!
My argument here is over. Carry on silly man.
Re: RASTABOT VOCODER
Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 11:06 pm
by _ronzlo_
LOL at rasclot Rastabot.
ME SEH!
Re: RASTABOT VOCODER
Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 12:29 am
by Banesy
OmegaMode wrote:Banesy wrote:OmegaMode wrote:Sooo this right here is super close and I didn't use melodyne.. its ringmod with a granular effect then send it through a vocoder for added umph!
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Oops, my fault. I confused this guy with you.
LOL Okay would you like the project file you punk? Huh? Would that make it easier for you ? I tried a vocoder but what was shown here as my preview wasn't vocoded..I LIED(my bad) my mistake for
NOT using a
VOCODER on the sound that was previewed and still happening to get a better sound than what you showed us.
My argument here is over. Carry on silly man.
Everything ok? It's cool to need a hug sometimes.
Re: RASTABOT VOCODER
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:19 am
by OmegaMode
Banesy wrote:OmegaMode wrote:Banesy wrote:OmegaMode wrote:Sooo this right here is super close and I didn't use melodyne.. its ringmod with a granular effect then send it through a vocoder for added umph!
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Oops, my fault. I confused this guy with you.
LOL Okay would you like the project file you punk? Huh? Would that make it easier for you ? I tried a vocoder but what was shown here as my preview wasn't vocoded..I LIED(my bad) my mistake for
NOT using a
VOCODER on the sound that was previewed and still happening to get a better sound than what you showed us.
My argument here is over. Carry on silly man.
Everything ok? It's cool to need a hug sometimes.
Re: RASTABOT VOCODER
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2014 3:53 pm
by mthrfnk
OmegaMode dude you get so angsty when people say they don't like your stuff... it's comical.
As for the vocals... I can hear multiple layers, the most prominent is the initially pitched down layer. Sounds like a bandpass filter/eq too similar to the classic "telephone effect". It does kind of sound as if the sound has been "force pitched" using something like Melodyne or Pitcher to give a glitchy sound between the words.
Theres some parallel distortion - there's a clean layer and raspy crisp layer that's got a shit ton of distortion to emphasise the highs. I also wouldn't be surpised if CLA Vocals was used too, Skrillex uses it on a lot of his vocal work. Running things super hot in CLA can really give a crispiness to the sound when you push it into the red, and the stereo spreader can give the sound more weight.