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The Origins of the Rusko/Caspa/Skrillex bass sounds??

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:58 pm
by O_o Feasible-Weasel
8) 8) so anybody who has been around since i would consider 2004 forwards..
i spoke to a Garage DJ from the 2step days up to now and he mentioned the massive Vst which came out in 2004, i can only presume it was by Niche/Bassline house producers..the earliest of this style of Transformer sound, i found on an old Agent X mix cd from 2005/2006 even though they were faster in those days..i remember from being here in 2007 people in the production form starting shifting to 2step drum patterns and used to download Niche/Bassline sounds..as originally dubstep wubs were more like their dub equivalents

Re: The Origins of the Rusko/Caspa/Skrillex bass sounds??

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:50 pm
by ultraspatial
assuming you mean the "robo sound"

some early tectonic stuff
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the storming productions stuff (caspa's old label). had stuff from s&d, dj narrows, dubchild etc

can't really pinpoint to a certan producer or tune or w/e tho. the sounds were there from dnb

Re: The Origins of the Rusko/Caspa/Skrillex bass sounds??

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:08 pm
by O_o Feasible-Weasel
you could probably say Caspa - Terminator from 2007..but im sure it may be older, good examples though :)

Re: The Origins of the Rusko/Caspa/Skrillex bass sounds??

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 9:23 pm
by Harkat
the basic idea of gnarly sounding oscilated bass is a bit older than dubstep

Re: The Origins of the Rusko/Caspa/Skrillex bass sounds??

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 1:31 pm
by rorz9992
Harkat wrote:the basic idea of gnarly sounding oscilated bass is a bit older than dubstep
Yeah this. Lots of similar mid-rangey sounds in D&B 1996 onward (especially around 99-2000)

Re: The Origins of the Rusko/Caspa/Skrillex bass sounds??

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 2:10 pm
by madis
clownstep, big in dnb before dubstep blew up.

Re: The Origins of the Rusko/Caspa/Skrillex bass sounds??

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 3:21 pm
by jrkhnds
wasn't clownstep the shit TC and the likes were pushing around '05? I only remember it being used to describe the incredibly formulaic stuff the jump up-guys were releasing aswell.

Re: The Origins of the Rusko/Caspa/Skrillex bass sounds??

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:35 pm
by O_o Feasible-Weasel
:corntard: anybody got any examples please??

Re: The Origins of the Rusko/Caspa/Skrillex bass sounds??

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:21 am
by titchbit
I'd say these tunes had a really strong impact on early dubstep/brostep bass/midrange sounds. It may have existed before this, but this is where the dubstep producers specifically drew a lot of influence from imo. caspa & rusko at least. not so much skrillex.
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Re: The Origins of the Rusko/Caspa/Skrillex bass sounds??

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2014 8:39 am
by ultraspatial
can't narrow it down to el-b tho imo

i mean, just look at the storming productions catalogue. those tunes sound more informed by metalheadz, no u turn, breaks and dark 4/4 garage like dj narrows, sirus, agent x etc

and yeah, like it was mentioned before, let's not underestimate the influence tearout dnb from hazard & playaz, which was (/still is?) massively popular, + bad company (and the slew of immitators that followed)

Re: The Origins of the Rusko/Caspa/Skrillex bass sounds??

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:09 am
by O_o Feasible-Weasel
ultraspatial wrote:can't narrow it down to el-b tho imo

i mean, just look at the storming productions catalogue. those tunes sound more informed by metalheadz, no u turn, breaks and dark 4/4 garage like dj narrows, sirus, agent x etc

and yeah, like it was mentioned before, let's not underestimate the influence tearout dnb from hazard & playaz, which was (/still is?) massively popular, + bad company (and the slew of immitators that followed)
:corndance: indeed those garage producers

Re: The Origins of the Rusko/Caspa/Skrillex bass sounds??

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:30 am
by stikman
Makes sense with the 4x4 garage scene to heavily use massive back in the day. You can make some sick garage sounds on it. Am I right in saying there was a preset on it that was the exact same bassline chase and status used on saxon?

Re: The Origins of the Rusko/Caspa/Skrillex bass sounds??

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:48 am
by O_o Feasible-Weasel
stikman wrote:Makes sense with the 4x4 garage scene to heavily use massive back in the day. You can make some sick garage sounds on it. Am I right in saying there was a preset on it that was the exact same bassline chase and status used on saxon?
lol wouldnt surprise me
Brutal Electro Patch??

Re: The Origins of the Rusko/Caspa/Skrillex bass sounds??

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 9:54 am
by stikman
O_o Feasible-Weasel wrote:
stikman wrote:Makes sense with the 4x4 garage scene to heavily use massive back in the day. You can make some sick garage sounds on it. Am I right in saying there was a preset on it that was the exact same bassline chase and status used on saxon?
lol wouldnt surprise me
Brutal Electro Patch??

I can't remember. But it was EXACTLY bang on the same. I'm surprised it was even tweaked a tiny bit to avoid people just straight ripping off their sound

Re: The Origins of the Rusko/Caspa/Skrillex bass sounds??

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:10 am
by O_o Feasible-Weasel
:) no doubt lol

Re: The Origins of the Rusko/Caspa/Skrillex bass sounds??

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2014 10:41 am
by stikman
I just can't look past drum and bass for first using that sound. Maybe quite a few releases after 2004 used massive? After the demand for that sound became so huge. The below album was 2004


Re: The Origins of the Rusko/Caspa/Skrillex bass sounds??

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 10:21 am
by Be-1ne
Ed Rush and Optical

Re: The Origins of the Rusko/Caspa/Skrillex bass sounds??

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2014 10:22 am
by wub
Wormhole has a lot to answer for.

Re: The Origins of the Rusko/Caspa/Skrillex bass sounds??

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:52 pm
by rorz9992
stikman wrote:I just can't look past drum and bass for first using that sound. Maybe quite a few releases after 2004 used massive? After the demand for that sound became so huge. The below album was 2004

Lmao I forgot that Hype used to scratch over D&B. Glad he cut that shit out

Re: The Origins of the Rusko/Caspa/Skrillex bass sounds??

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:39 pm
by jrkhnds
Om Unit still does.