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£250 hardware synths... whats your choice
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:11 pm
by shmurkle
I'm demo-ing a micro brute at my local store saturday and wandered if anyone could recommend any other hardware synths in that category to also maybe look at.
its gonna be my first hardware synth, i don't want it for anything particular but to give me something to play with and maybe help me understand sound design furthermore.
i make music within the 135-140 bracket which is on the deeper side of things, making sounds like maybe the old headhunter, martyn kinda tip if that helps with things?
Re: £250 hardware synths... whats your choice
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 5:46 pm
by fragments
mac wrote:I'm demo-ing a micro brute at my local store saturday and wandered if anyone could recommend any other hardware synths in that it siundsategory to also maybe look at.
its gonna be my first hardware synth, i don't want it for anything particular but to give me something to play with and maybe help me understand sound design furthermore.
i make music within the 135-140 bracket which is on the deeper side of things, making sounds like maybe the old headhunter, martyn kinda tip if that helps with things?
If you can demo a Bass Station II do it. Different vibe than the MicroBrute. I love my MiniBrute though...which is fairly similar in sound. You could probably also get Blofeld at that price range figure...more versatile but has matrix style controls. You could also get a used Nord Lead 2x which is my next big synth purchase.
Fwiw I use my MicroBrute on every track since I got it. Usually not for bass deep bass...though it can do that. Also like a lot of analogs it sounds dusty/dry...needs some rich fx to really bring it to life.
Re: £250 hardware synths... whats your choice
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 6:40 pm
by Libra
I loved the Bass station II when I demo'd it. Can get some really huge sounds
Re: £250 hardware synths... whats your choice
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 9:11 pm
by rockonin
Have a look at the Novation Mini Nova.
Re: £250 hardware synths... whats your choice
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 7:00 am
by 3rdeye
+1 for checking out the Bass Station II. I love it.
Re: £250 hardware synths... whats your choice
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:39 pm
by wolf89
microbrute is cool for sure
Re: £250 hardware synths... whats your choice
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 6:44 pm
by Simulant
fragments wrote:Also like a lot of analogs it sounds dusty/dry
Dusty and dry?

Re: £250 hardware synths... whats your choice
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:30 pm
by fragments
Simulant wrote:fragments wrote:Also like a lot of analogs it sounds dusty/dry
Dusty and dry?

Maybe not the best descriptions. Just feel like it really comes alive with a bit of chorus or delay.
EDIT: I know what I want to say. It sounds raw, which can work on its own depending on what you are going for. I've had a MicroBrute and a Mopho desktop, both have aggressive analog filters with filter feedback distortion of some type (if I am not mistaken). A nice, lush delay based FX can do wonders for getting something a bit more tame out of these boxes.
Re: £250 hardware synths... whats your choice
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 8:39 pm
by legend4ry
I really like the K station too.
Novation do great synths on a budget.
Re: £250 hardware synths... whats your choice
Posted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:56 pm
by Simulant
fragments wrote:EDIT: I know what I want to say. It sounds raw, which can work on its own depending on what you are going for. I've had a MicroBrute and a Mopho desktop, both have aggressive analog filters with filter feedback distortion of some type (if I am not mistaken). A nice, lush delay based FX can do wonders for getting something a bit more tame out of these boxes.
Yeah I see what you're saying now. I find that a touch of reverb with pre-delay can work wonders on some synth patches.
Re: £250 hardware synths... whats your choice
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 9:13 pm
by wolf89
fragments wrote:Simulant wrote:fragments wrote:Also like a lot of analogs it sounds dusty/dry
Dusty and dry?

Maybe not the best descriptions. Just feel like it really comes alive with a bit of chorus or delay.
EDIT: I know what I want to say. It sounds raw, which can work on its own depending on what you are going for. I've had a MicroBrute and a Mopho desktop, both have aggressive analog filters with filter feedback distortion of some type (if I am not mistaken). A nice, lush delay based FX can do wonders for getting something a bit more tame out of these boxes.
Who wants tame? haha
I know what you mean though I think. Lots of reverb on my old MS20 changes it from sounding thick and dirty and moves into Sci Fi lead territory.
Re: £250 hardware synths... whats your choice
Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 9:24 pm
by fragments
wolf89 wrote:fragments wrote:Simulant wrote:fragments wrote:Also like a lot of analogs it sounds dusty/dry
Dusty and dry?

Maybe not the best descriptions. Just feel like it really comes alive with a bit of chorus or delay.
EDIT: I know what I want to say. It sounds raw, which can work on its own depending on what you are going for. I've had a MicroBrute and a Mopho desktop, both have aggressive analog filters with filter feedback distortion of some type (if I am not mistaken). A nice, lush delay based FX can do wonders for getting something a bit more tame out of these boxes.
Who wants tame? haha
I know what you mean though I think. Lots of reverb on my old MS20 changes it from sounding thick and dirty and moves into Sci Fi lead territory.

Yea...raw as fuck can be good...real good... but sometimes you gotta break out the silk sheets n whatnot.
Re: £250 hardware synths... whats your choice
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 10:39 pm
by elyhess
legend4ry wrote:I really like the K station too.
Novation do great synths on a budget.
yeah i got the bass station 2 a few months ago, not super pricy and definitely worth it! can get all sorts of cool sounds, i really like Novations synths (for the price)
Re: £250 hardware synths... whats your choice
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 1:18 am
by fragments
elyhess wrote:legend4ry wrote:I really like the K station too.
Novation do great synths on a budget.
yeah i got the bass station 2 a few months ago, not super pricy and definitely worth it! can get all sorts of cool sounds, i really like Novations synths (for the price)
I'm really trying to not want a BSII since I already have two mono synths...
Re: £250 hardware synths... whats your choice
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:22 am
by cyclopian
My answer might sound a bit bummer-ish and un-fun, but the first thing you should buy is a decent interface/soundcard.
I've got a pile of synths at home now, and no proper way to really record them.

Re: £250 hardware synths... whats your choice
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:00 pm
by legend4ry
andius wrote:My answer might sound a bit bummer-ish and un-fun, but the first thing you should buy is a decent interface/soundcard.
I've got a pile of synths at home now, and no proper way to really record them.

It would be a great start hah!
I just ordered this :
http://www.thomann.de/gb/zoom_r24.htm cause the Saffire 6 is WAY to limiting.
Re: £250 hardware synths... whats your choice
Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 9:37 pm
by fragments
legend4ry wrote:andius wrote:My answer might sound a bit bummer-ish and un-fun, but the first thing you should buy is a decent interface/soundcard.
I've got a pile of synths at home now, and no proper way to really record them.

It would be a great start hah!
I just ordered this :
http://www.thomann.de/gb/zoom_r24.htm cause the Saffire 6 is WAY to limiting.
Nice. Been eyeballing that Zoom series for a while

Re: £250 hardware synths... whats your choice
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:45 am
by soronery
fragments wrote:legend4ry wrote:andius wrote:My answer might sound a bit bummer-ish and un-fun, but the first thing you should buy is a decent interface/soundcard.
I've got a pile of synths at home now, and no proper way to really record them.

It would be a great start hah!
I just ordered this :
http://www.thomann.de/gb/zoom_r24.htm cause the Saffire 6 is WAY to limiting.
Nice. Been eyeballing that Zoom series for a while

i have a question on that unit. from the below picture;
that's the back of the unit. each channel has an input, the black connectors. however there is only one input 'socket' per channel, whereas synths/drum machines etc have a dual L/R output, like a red/black phono cable.
is there a convertor that changes the red/black phono to a single big connector to fit into the back of that unit, or do you lose either the left or right channel depending?
or do you run the left into one channel and the right into the other?
this may be a bit of a dumb question but i've not used a lot of hardware.
Re: £250 hardware synths... whats your choice
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 7:58 am
by legend4ry
Each strip apart from the master is a mono input.
You'd use a cable like this :
Then plug it into 1/2, 3/4, 5/6 or 7/8.
Re: £250 hardware synths... whats your choice
Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:00 am
by soronery
so using that cable i'd have to have each side going to a different channel if i wanted stereo?
or if i outputted from the synth or whatever with only one channel, and just hard pan it right or left depending on which side i'm using?