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Setting levels with pink noise

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 9:51 am
by karmacazee
Don't know if this is a repost, but never thought of this before - great, quick way of setting your initial levels!


Re: Setting levels with pink noise

Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:07 pm
by NinjaEdit
Grey noise sounds better than pink noise.

Re: Setting levels with pink noise

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:02 am
by karmacazee
Ha...


ok...

Re: Setting levels with pink noise

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:02 am
by kaili
dont get the vid
maybe im dumb idk
so he plays the pink noise then mixes the tracks with it playing but idgi, how does the way he mixes them relate to the pn?

Re: Setting levels with pink noise

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:55 am
by elyhess
interesting!

Re: Setting levels with pink noise

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:12 pm
by karmacazee
kaili wrote:dont get the vid
maybe im dumb idk
so he plays the pink noise then mixes the tracks with it playing but idgi, how does the way he mixes them relate to the pn?

He is mixing the tracks so that they are just audible or the same level as the pink noise, thus setting a fairly even level across the audio spectrum, from bass to treble.

Re: Setting levels with pink noise

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 2:40 pm
by mthrfnk
I've used this before, still use it tbh when setting up and checking an initial mix. Works best if you get a good source file (i.e. 16bit+ wave file, don't use some shitty compressed mp3 file).

It essentially allows you to set set the levels so that your overall spectrum fits the same profile as a pink noise spectrum, and gives you a "flat sounding" mix. Obviously some things will need boosting or lowering dependant on how you want the mix to sound but it works as a baseline, especially if your listening environment isn't great.

Re: Setting levels with pink noise

Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 5:45 pm
by kaili
karmacazee wrote:
kaili wrote:dont get the vid
maybe im dumb idk
so he plays the pink noise then mixes the tracks with it playing but idgi, how does the way he mixes them relate to the pn?

He is mixing the tracks so that they are just audible or the same level as the pink noise, thus setting a fairly even level across the audio spectrum, from bass to treble.
ohhh ok now it makes sense, derp

Re: Setting levels with pink noise

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 6:29 am
by cyclopian
jonahmann wrote:Grey noise sounds better than pink noise.
Grey noise has a much different 'curve' though. Will result in a 'bad' mix with this technique.
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White noise is pretty much flat which wont provide a proper mix via this technique.

Pink noise has a good 'curve' for this technique.

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Re: Setting levels with pink noise

Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2014 11:42 am
by Add9
correct me if I'm wrong but ideally wouldn't you want white noise that was EQ'd to match an equal-loudness contour? it seems to me it wouldn't be that hard to just make an eq preset with some noise that accomplishes this

Re: Setting levels with pink noise

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 4:39 pm
by mthrfnk
Add9 wrote:correct me if I'm wrong but ideally wouldn't you want white noise that was EQ'd to match an equal-loudness contour? it seems to me it wouldn't be that hard to just make an eq preset with some noise that accomplishes this
Thats essentially what pink noise is isn't it... equal energy throughout the spectrum.

Re: Setting levels with pink noise

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 6:06 pm
by Add9
mthrfnk wrote:
Add9 wrote:correct me if I'm wrong but ideally wouldn't you want white noise that was EQ'd to match an equal-loudness contour? it seems to me it wouldn't be that hard to just make an eq preset with some noise that accomplishes this
Thats essentially what pink noise is isn't it... equal energy throughout the spectrum.
Are they the same thing? cause the fletcher munson curve looks like it goes down until about 3k and then goes up again, while the pink noise graph looks like it goes down consistently as frequency increases...

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Maybe they look different because equal energy and equal loudness are not the same thing I suppose, but I wonder which would actually be better for referencing.